why arent laptopa built like that?

[Jurrunio]

 On Today, all laptops have most of their components underneath the keyboard while the screen (and RGB lights of you are into those) is at the other side. This makes sense because the base must be heavier than the screen or else the laptop will flip backwards rather than staying on your lap.

 

What about gaming laptops? They still use the conventional setup despite using parts with much higher TDP. This isnt good for the performance and durabilty, but especially bad for the users, who either deal with loud fans or a hot keyboard.

 

What I'm thinking is that since gaming laptops (or rather, mobile gaming stations) are used on desks mostly anyway, why arent the main hardware located at the back of the screen, just like how the Surface Pro works with the keyboard cover? This way the keyboard is no longer hot. The hardware has more surface area for cooling fans. Thickness is less of an issue since it no longer sets the keyboard no longer gets jacked up high. Probably needs a gap between the monitor for cooling, but this allows the main frame holding the motherboard to act as the support for the tilted monitor.

[Beef Boss]

I feel no difference if my keyboard is warm or cold. If anything I prefer a warm keyboard. 

[Jurrunio]

Just now, BadluckBrian said:

I feel no difference if my keyboard is warm or cold. If anything I prefer a warm keyboard. 

It's quite often a lot more than warm unless the fans go nuts.

[samcool55]

Well some of the most high-end gaming laptops have a different config.

Keyboard all the way to the front, derpy touchpad and hot components next to the keyboard instead of below it.

[deXxterlab97]

Yeah I see problems

• How you gonna lift the screen up
• I never mind the hardware being hot
• Also that would mean there must be some sort of balance as if the screen and keyboard are connected the heaviness of the screen might make the screen itself being tilted down like my CS GO teammates when I tell a horrible joke
• T H I C C screen, me no like. Plus it also has to accommodate screen stuff so EXTRA T H I C C me also no like. 

[michaelocarroll007]

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

It's quite often a lot more than warm unless the fans go nuts.

That depends on the laptop not all get the keyboard too hot. Some if designed correctly do not. 

 

Either way i dont get what your saying at all.  are you saying this https://www.google.com/search?q=Asus+ROG+Zephyrus+Black+Metal+Gaming+Laptop+Computer+-+GX501VI-XS74&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjr9aOniLLZAhUDnOAKHQbfDZUQ_AUIDCgD&biw=1343&bih=696#imgrc=FATv2YLj5l-eYM: 

 

EDIT: I think your saying for the componetes to be behind the screen but what i linked moves the keobard away from the Heat aswell and less drastic of a change without the drawbacks. But either way a correctly designed gaming laptop the keyboards dont get hot do research before buying many reviewers use digital thermometers to show keyboard heat ares

[Sauron]

Screens don't really like heat either and, since most "gaming" laptops have very large heatsinks anyway, this would make the screen very heavy and hard to balance, even on a desk. To get an idea of what it would be like grab a tablet, tape a brick to its back, then try to use it as a laptop.

 

Some of the largest laptops available today actually do address the "hot keyboard" issue by placing it at the edge and having the hardware in the middle:

 

this also allows them to use mechanical keyboards.

[Jurrunio]

17 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

Well some of the most high-end gaming laptops have a different config.

Keyboard all the way to the front, derpy touchpad and hot components next to the keyboard instead of below it.

certainly a working solution to hot keyboards, but the cooling still isnt strong enough for the components, let's say a Ryzen 7 under full load (didnt LTT do a video on Asus laptop with Ryzen 7 before)?

 

14 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Yeah I see problems

• How you gonna lift the screen up
• I never mind the hardware being hot
• Also that would mean there must be some sort of balance as if the screen and keyboard are connected the heaviness of the screen might make the screen itself being tilted down like my CS GO teammates when I tell a horrible joke
• T H I C C screen, me no like. Plus it also has to accommodate screen stuff so EXTRA T H I C C me also no like. 

Folded position (bad paint sketch as usual)

Looks like a swiss knife at this state

 

In use position:

These will be held by hinges (other than the battery)

 

Also, this means you can use desktop mITX hardware instead (with heavy power limit when using battery power is likely) @Sauron  @michaelocarroll007

[Guest Generallee]

3 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Screens don't really like heat either and, since most "gaming" laptops have very large heatsinks anyway, this would make the screen very heavy and hard to balance, even on a desk. To get an idea of what it would be like grab a tablet, tape a brick to its back, then try to use it as a laptop.

 

Some of the largest laptops available today actually do address the "hot keyboard" issue by placing it at the edge and having the hardware in the middle:

 

this also allows them to use mechanical keyboards.

Jesus christ so much wants HNGNNNNGN

[deXxterlab97]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

certainly a working solution to hot keyboards, but the cooling still isnt strong enough for the components, let's say a Ryzen 7 under full load (didnt LTT do a video on Asus laptop with Ryzen 7 before)?

 

Folded position (bad paint sketch as usual)

 

Looks like a swiss knife at this state

 

In use position:

 

These will be held by hinges (other than the battery)

 

Also, this means you can use desktop mITX hardware instead (with heavy power limit when using battery power is likely) @Sauron  @michaelocarroll007

so like a separate tower next to a monitor, gosh i would rather waste space on a mITX with a small screen rather than having to waste so much space on a laptop. 

[deXxterlab97]

6 minutes ago, Sauron said:

To get an idea of what it would be like grab a tablet, tape a brick to its back, then try to use it as a laptop.

Or you can tape a Nokia 3310 as an alternative

[michaelocarroll007]

10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

certainly a working solution to hot keyboards, but the cooling still isnt strong enough for the components, let's say a Ryzen 7 under full load (didnt LTT do a video on Asus laptop with Ryzen 7 before)?

 

Folded position (bad paint sketch as usual)

 

Looks like a swiss knife at this state

 

In use position:

 

These will be held by hinges (other than the battery)

 

Also, this means you can use desktop mITX hardware instead (with heavy power limit when using battery power is likely) @Sauron  @michaelocarroll007

Well if your going to be portable and are worried about heat pick a laptop that can cool what you Buy Pretty much have to go intel right now for a lot of cases. There are MANY laptops that cool its components great while keeping the keyboard cool  Including I7 and GTX 1070 laptops. like i said just do research before buying this isnt a problem besides on badly designed laptops.  

 

Thats not a laptop thats a portable monitor keyboard and a Mini Case lol. Battery is the only thing that helps it be somewhat better then having it all separate. Personally i buy a laptop to use it as a laptop and i think most people do. I want to be able to easily pick it up and move it and or take it with me quickly.  

[grimreeper132]

With it being under the keyboard you can exast it out the back and sides and intake it through the front and sides pretty easily and keep it away from the keyboard through cleaver engineering. Where as if you keep it in the screen the keyboard would need to be weighted to stop it from falling over, you would need a heavy duty hinge to stop it from snapping off and in place. And also the heat disapation if you want to keep the screen as thick as they are now would be much harder.  Aslo please keep in mind that you would effectiavely need to double the weight of the laptop as the base would need to be heavier than the screen to keep it upright on most angles, meaning the laptops will be heavy as fuck.

[Sauron]

@Jurrunio at that point you might as well bring a desktop with you. I've seen people build a desktop into a suitcase with a car battery and bring it around, but that's not the point of a gaming laptop. A laptop needs to be at least somewhat portable and usable on the go even if you don't have a desk, heavy or not. As I said, there already are solutions to the hot keyboard problem that don't involve making the whole thing clunky and complicated.