$100 for a Phenom II X6 1090T worth it?

[Troika]

Well, $99.99 with free shipping and 30 return policy from a seemingly good seller on ebay. As far as the board inquestion, an Asus Crosshair II Formula, its the best chip that it supports. There's 1055Ts listed for less so my question is just that. Is it worth grabbing the 1090T for $100 or a 1055T for $65, also with free shipping and 30 return.

[Canada EH]

5 minutes ago, Troika said:

Well, $99.99 with free shipping and 30 return policy from a seemingly good seller on ebay. As far as the board inquestion, an Asus Crosshair II Formula, its the best chip that it supports. There's 1055Ts listed for less so my question is just that. Is it worth grabbing the 1090T for $100 or a 1055T for $65, also with free shipping and 30 return.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenom_II

my guess is 1090T

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Phenom_microprocessors#.22Thuban.22_.28E0.2C_45_nm.2C_Hexa-core.29

which is right

x14 and slower speeds is the 1055T

x16 and higher speeds is the 1090T

But not by much, so is $35 difference much for you?

[Troika]

6 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenom_II

my guess is 1090T

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Phenom_microprocessors#.22Thuban.22_.28E0.2C_45_nm.2C_Hexa-core.29

which is right

x14 and slower speeds is the 1055T

x16 and higher speeds is the 1090T

But not by much, so is $35 difference much for you?

I should have looked it up first before asking ^^; The 1090T is also a black edition cpu and the 1055T isn't so $35 for overclocking is a moot argument.

 

Now I just need a good psu 850w+ psu and I'll have the guts for my desktop. A case would also be very handy. x3

[Canada EH]

Its still outdated cpu but if thats all you need then its fine.

 

Otherwise look at AMD's lineup for a new build, like the igpu cpus such as the 2400G, or the 1600.

But then again I would seriously look at refurbished unit from newegg, lemme find some for you.

 

I know those cpus you listed have 6 cores but do they have 12 threads, or just 6 threads?

Either way even a 4th gen i5 will beat the X6

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X6-1090T-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4570/m417vs2770

 

 

Refurbished: HP EliteDesk 800 G1 SFF i5-4570 3.20GHz 4GB 160GB Win 7 Pro 1 Yr Wty $174^.99

 

Refurbished: Lenovo ThinkCentre M92p SFF i5-3470 3.20GHz 4GB 160GB Win 7 Pro 1 Yr Wty  $134^.99

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X6-1090T-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3470/m417vs2771

 

 

an i7 3rd gen is $200usd

while an i7 4th gen is $375usd

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[dizmo]

Heavens no. Buy an i3 8100 instead.

[Troika]

2 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

Its still outdated cpu but if thats all you need then its fine.

 

Otherwise look at AMD's lineup for a new build, like the igpu cpus such as the 2400G, or the 1600.

But then again I would seriously look at refurbished unit from newegg, lemme find some for you.

Yep, an outdated cpu for an outdated board.

 

Nah, I have a brand new gaming laptop that I actually posted about here a few days ago. Its a sager p750tm1-G with an i7 8700k & a gtx 1070. The computer this chip is powering is basically gonna be a guest gaming computer/extended file server/backup computer that's gonna have a pair of gtx 570s in sli cause I got them for $10 each and they work beautifully. The only part I really prefer to have new over used is the psu and right now, the prices are a little bloated cause of all the miners. >:T

[Troika]

3 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Heavens no. Buy an i3 8100 instead.

That would be more expensive because I have to buy not only the cpu but a compatible mobo and ram.

[Canada EH]

3 minutes ago, Troika said:

is basically gonna be a guest gaming computer/extended file server/backup computer that's gonna have a pair of gtx 570s in sli

even an i5 3rd gen is only $135usd complete pc ready to run with an o/s

*look at my previous post as I have edited it

 

 

Refurbished: HP Elite 8300 USDT USFF i5-3570S 3.10GHz 4GB 160GB Win 7 Pro 1 Yr Wty

• $124^.99

 

Refurbished: HP Elite 8200 USDT USFF i5-2400S 2.50GHz 4GB 250GB Win 7 Pro 1 Yr Wty

• $104^.99

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X6-1090T-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2400S/m417vsm304

 

 

 

 

 

 

[dizmo]

Just now, Troika said:

That would be more expensive because I have to buy not only the cpu but a compatible mobo and ram.

Ok, then grab an older i5. Basically the same thing.

The AMD CPU is garbage, and it'll struggle with a lot of current titles, plus the motherboards are getting older in age.

[Canada EH]

4 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Ok, then grab an older i5. Basically the same thing.

The AMD CPU is garbage, and it'll struggle with a lot of current titles, plus the motherboards are getting older in age.

That is obsolutely right.

 

Buy what I suggest and you will be out ahead of the game!

You could even sell your AMD shit to some sucker, for say $40-$75 if its a whole pc.

Then buy this -

Refurbished: HP EliteDesk 800 G1 SFF i5-4570 3.20GHz 4GB 160GB Win 7 Pro 1 Yr Wty $174^.99

And your only in it for $100-$125

And thats what ONE SINGLE SHITTY AMD CPU costs

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, Canada EH said:

That is obsolutely right.

 

Buy what I suggest and you will be out ahead of the game!

Exactly. My buddy was using that CPU, and it was....painful. Plus some games don't even support it without patches later on (Destiny 2), and I only see that being more common as we go forward. We're looking to sell my roommates old PC for $250 CDN complete, so $99 USD for just the CPU is a total rip off.

[Canada EH]

Oh man, I had that AMD cpu back in the day and it was horrible!

It was absolute CRAP!

I dont see why anyone would buy a $100 AMD X6 when you can buy a complete i5 4th gen pc for $135

[Troika]

4 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Ok, then grab an older i5. Basically the same thing.

The AMD CPU is garbage, and it'll struggle with a lot of current titles, plus the motherboards are getting older in age.

I'm not interested in playing new titles on this computer. I need it to run older games like Doom 3, Quake 3/4, Civ 3+, Age of Empires, basically lan games. I've only invested, with the 1090T I just grabbed is about $150 all I need is a good psu and a large enough case.

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, Troika said:

I'm not interested in playing new titles on this computer. I need it to run older games like Doom 3, Quake 3/4, Civ 3+, Age of Empires, basically lan games. I've only invested, with the 1090T I just grabbed is about $150 all I need is a good psu and a large enough case.

Still a horrible idea. Good luck.

[Troika]

6 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

That is obsolutely right.

 

Buy what I suggest and you will be out ahead of the game!

You could even sell your AMD shit to some sucker, for say $40-$75 if its a whole pc.

Then buy this -

Refurbished: HP EliteDesk 800 G1 SFF i5-4570 3.20GHz 4GB 160GB Win 7 Pro 1 Yr Wty $174^.99

And your only in it for $100-$125

And thats what ONE SINGLE SHITTY AMD CPU costs

Its not. I have a phenom II 940 in it before but it died on me. I know the cpu died because I have an older phemon x4 9350e and it works just fine.

[Troika]

3 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

Oh man, I had that AMD cpu back in the day and it was horrible!

It was absolute CRAP!

I dont see why anyone would buy a $100 AMD X6 when you can buy a complete i5 4th gen pc for $135

I wasn't looking for opinions on the build, just opinion on the cpu and its price itself. Beyond that is beyond my interested and not worth spending more money that I have to.

[Canada EH]

26 minutes ago, Troika said:

Its not. I have a phenom II 940 in it before but it died on me. I know the cpu died because I have an older phemon x4 9350e and it works just fine.

So you are telling all of us at LTT that you'd spend $100 on an AMD X6 cpu and have very poor performance!

Rather then spend $135 for an ENTIRE PC with a i5 4th gen cpu, o/s, case EVERYTHING, a complete working pc.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4570-vs-AMD-Phenom-II-X6-1055T/2770vs2003

 

 

 

 

Stock Properietoty PSU Hack - 5:02 is the diagram!

 

[Troika]

Just now, Canada EH said:

So you are telling all of us at LTT that you'd spend $100 on an AMD X6 cpu and have very poor performance!

Rather then spend $135 for an ENTIRE PC with a i5 4th gen cpu, o/s, case EVERYTHING, a complete working pc.

Yes because I have the parts and I want to use them rather than just throw them out and be wasteful. On top of that, after the computer dies or is no longer useful to me, I can just replace the guts with brand new components and keep using the existing case, psu, hard drives and probably the cooler too. If I buy some crap from dell or hp, there's very little to nothing in it that I could reuse. In the long run, this solution is cheaper than the one you propose.

[KarathKasun]

15 minutes ago, Troika said:

Yes because I have the parts and I want to use them rather than just throw them out and be wasteful. On top of that, after the computer dies or is no longer useful to me, I can just replace the guts with brand new components and keep using the existing case, psu, hard drives and probably the cooler too. If I buy some crap from dell or hp, there's very little to nothing in it that I could reuse. In the long run, this solution is cheaper than the one you propose.

$50 or less only.

 

You can get an E3-1220 and a board for $70 total.

[Thermosman]

51 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Heavens no. Buy an i3 8100 instead.

I wouldnt get z370.  Get a ryzen 1200/2400g or get a i5 7th gen for cheaper mobos

Whooops terrible typo

[Troika]

Also, according to futuremark, the 1090T is between the i5 4590 and the i5 4670k. That is not a bad place to be. To that point, a 4590 sells for $135 with free shipping and a 14 day return but 20% restock fee and a 4690k (which I used to have and sold a while back to offset the cost of my laptop in January) $172 with free shipping but no return.

[Troika]

Just now, Thermosman said:

I would get z370.  Get a ryzen 1200/2400g or get a i5 7th gen for cheaper mobos

I also would do that were I building a high end gaming computer but my laptop with a z370 board an a 8700k still puts just about any other solution to shame unless you have a larger budget in mind.

[KarathKasun]

3 minutes ago, Troika said:

Also, according to futuremark, the 1090T is between the i5 4590 and the i5 4670k. That is not a bad place to be. To that point, a 4590 sells for $135 with free shipping and a 14 day return but 20% restock fee and a 4690k (which I used to have and sold a while back to offset the cost of my laptop in January) $172 with free shipping but no return.

1090t will perform worse in reality due to ST performance being lower, significantly lower.  Most games can use more threads, but the primary thread still sets the game performance.  I have some dual CPU Xeon workstations that prove this point.

[Troika]

Just now, KarathKasun said:

1090t will perform worse in reality due to ST performance being lower.  Most games can use more threads, but the primary thread still sets the game performance.  I have some dual CPU Xeon workstations that prove this point.

I'm not using this computer for most games, I'm using this computer for older games were multiple threads don't matter as much and either does cpu performance. 1090T is soley there to minimize the bottlenecking from a pair of gtx 570s 1.25GB in sli.

[KarathKasun]

Define older games?

 

Phenom II is ~C2Q IPC, if you get 4ghz out of it you will still run into CPU limitations in older games with that setup, unless we are talking pre-2010 games.  In which case GTX 570 SLI will still run into CPU limitations because of the sheer FPS they will push.