Low fps on overwatch but not using all of hardware

[tehx]

Hi, I have a 7700k and gtx 1070. I am playing overwatch on a 144hz monitor. In fights I am sometimes getting about 110 fps but my hardware is not a 100% https://gyazo.com/1251a72e2f8f6eea1f8c240c5345a21b

Any help would be appreciated

 EDIT peak cpu usage is 60% and gpu is 96

thanks in advance

[J400]

you my friend, have just witnessed the glory of a cpu bottleneck. once you get past 100fps, your gpu has to wait on the cpu to catch up. the only way to get around this is by overclocking your cpu.

[tehx]

1 minute ago, J400 said:

you my friend, have just witnessed the glory of a cpu bottleneck. once you get past 100fps, your gpu has to wait on the cpu to catch up. the only way to get around this is by overclocking your cpu.

But my CPU is only at 60%

[J400]

that doesn't mean anything. my ryzen 7 1700 only hits 20-30% at most when I'm gaming, and my gpu usage will drop anyway. the big contender here is single threaded performance. overwatch only uses two cores, and leverages two other threads slightly when those are used up. the only way to increase your framerate is by increasing the amount those two cores can handle. and the only way to do that, is by overlclocking.

[tehx]

1 minute ago, J400 said:

that doesn't mean anything. my ryzen 7 1700 only hits 20-30% at most when I'm gaming, and my gpu usage will drop anyway. the big contender here is single threaded performance. overwatch only uses two cores, and leverages two other threads slightly when those are used up. the only way to increase your framerate is by increasing the amount those two cores can handle. and the only way to do that, is by overlclocking.

Overwatch uses more than 2 cores lol

[J400]

i can use more than 2 cores, but it does not leverage equally among all 4 of them. if you open resource monitor while you are gaming, you will notice that cpu 0 and cpu 1 will be pegged 70-100% while the other cores will only reach 20-30% at most, this is because it is not optimized to effectively use all the cores equally.

[tehx]

Just now, J400 said:

i can use more than 2 cores, but it does not leverage equally among all 4 of them. if you open resource monitor while you are gaming, you will notice that cpu 0 and cpu 1 will be pegged 70-100% while the other cores will only reach 20-30% at most, this is because it is not optimized to effectively use all the cores equally.

Okay I take your word for it. I am going to overclock my cpu now hoping to see a increase in performance. I have seen people on yt have 7700ks and not dip below 144fps

[J400]

yeah just make sure you do it safely. hopefully you have a decent cooler and a good board. make sure to do plenty of research first.

[tehx]

1 minute ago, J400 said:

yeah just make sure you do it safely. hopefully you have a decent cooler and a good board. make sure to do plenty of research first.

Yeah, I have. I got my old i5 to 5ghz

[tehx]

1 hour ago, Assassinguy2623 said:

Yeah, I have. I got my old i5 to 5ghz

Just overclocked to 5ghz no noticable difference. This is bs I've seen people stay above 144 with their i7s

[xg32]

4 hours ago, Assassinguy2623 said:

But my CPU is only at 60%

not all games are optimized to use all 8 threads, i'd say 60-80% is normal. It's the same thing for 8600k/8700k, just means u can actually download or watch stuff in the background without dropping frames.

[tehx]

6 hours ago, xg32 said:

not all games are optimized to use all 8 threads, i'd say 60-80% is normal. It's the same thing for 8600k/8700k, just means u can actually download or watch stuff in the background without dropping frames.

I would agree with you but I can't as I have seen other people get 99gpu usage with no frame drops on 7700k

[DarkSmith2]

14 minutes ago, Assassinguy2623 said:

I would agree with you but I can't as I have seen other people get 99gpu usage with no frame drops on 7700k

do the other poeple use the same speed of RAM? As you mentioned you dont see any FPS increase when overclocking, are you sure that you arent bandwidth limited? RAM speed does matter alot for minimum FPS...

[Ebony Falcon]

Don't listen to thoes fools, ur obviously gpu bottlenecked if ur around 96 percent 

 

if you take overwatch seriously turn settings Down to low and resolution scale set to 100 not auto 100

trip buffer off

vsync off

 

and u will be doing 270 fps 

 

how do I know ?

 

i get 270 fps with a 1070 and a 1700x (the supposedly worse gaming chip)

[Emberstone]

17 hours ago, Assassinguy2623 said:

Okay I take your word for it. I am going to overclock my cpu now hoping to see a increase in performance. I have seen people on yt have 7700ks and not dip below 144fps

It’s not a CPU bottleneck most likely. Epic settings will hit the limits of a 1070. If you’re playing on Epic settings, that would be why. Set it to Ultra and enjoy that delicious ~180-200 FPS average.

 

Epic and Ultra look almost identical; in screenshots I can’t tell a difference.

 

(Also Overwatch is highly multithreaded, despite the earlier claim. It’s why the game, on Ryzen, runs pretty much on par with Intel.)

[tehx]

7 hours ago, DarkSmith2 said:

do the other poeple use the same speed of RAM? As you mentioned you dont see any FPS increase when overclocking, are you sure that you arent bandwidth limited? RAM speed does matter alot for minimum FPS...

This guy has 1500mhz ram and has no issues 

 

[tehx]

2 hours ago, Emberstone said:

It’s not a CPU bottleneck most likely. Epic settings will hit the limits of a 1070. If you’re playing on Epic settings, that would be why. Set it to Ultra and enjoy that delicious ~180-200 FPS average.

 

Epic and Ultra look almost identical; in screenshots I can’t tell a difference.

 

(Also Overwatch is highly multithreaded, despite the earlier claim. It’s why the game, on Ryzen, runs pretty much on par with Intel.)

No difference in ultra, still 70 max cpu and gpu is now 60 max

 

[DarkSmith2]

42 minutes ago, Assassinguy2623 said:

This guy has 1500mhz ram and has no issues 

Its double data rate, so he is using DDR4-3000 CL15. (not so bad)

But he is also playing on a 1440p Monitor and a GTX1080.

[tehx]

1 minute ago, DarkSmith2 said:

Its double data rate, so he is using DDR4-3000 CL15. (not so bad)

But he is also playing on a 1440p Monitor and a GTX1080.

Your telling me my RAM is the bottleneck???

[DarkSmith2]

10 minutes ago, Assassinguy2623 said:

Your telling me my RAM is the bottleneck???

dont know, what are you running?

 

to get an idea of what the hell im talking about watch this:

 

Your GPU could be clocked lower or thermal throttling, or your windows could be just a bad install, could be everything. But if you cheaped out on memory it is possible that its slowing your pc down aswell.

[tehx]

1 minute ago, DarkSmith2 said:

dont know, what are you running?

 

to get an idea of what the hell im talking about watch this:

 

Your GPU could be clocked lower or thermal throttling, or your windows could be just a bad install, could be everything. But if you cheaped out on memory it is possible that its slowing your pc aswell.

The memory was not cheap, 2400mhz Corsair Vengeance 8gb $80

[DarkSmith2]

12 minutes ago, Assassinguy2623 said:

The memory was not cheap, 2400mhz Corsair Vengeance 8gb $80

well i can imagine that you are leaving some fps behind in terms of minimum FPS in extremely CPU bound games, sweetspot for price to performance is DDR4-3200 CL14/15.

 

But i cant tell if this is the reason for your Overwatch problem. I dont even play that game.

 

EDIT:

From a quick googling session, i would say RAM speeds matter alot for Overwatch.

Maybe you should try to Overclock your RAM to test it.