Mouse Choice Advice

[Aereto_Compuru]

After 1 year of use, my mouse is showing its wear, I need to get a new one before one of its buttons completely gives in. I use the Logitech Trackman Marble, a trackball mouse that I have used for many years, but seen that the more recent models are not as durable. So I am in the market for a mouse that meets comfort and durability standards. As I work part time, I know if a mouse is too expensive when it costs me almost my paycheck (example being a mouse on my wish list).

 

I can use optical and trackball mice equally, but I use trackball to drastically reduce fatigue and injury risk in the arm and wrist. I may order one within a week, so I'm up for some more research in between gaming and homework.

Considerations:

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• Palm-grip user
• Hand size matches the length of the Logitech Trackman Marble
• If optical mouse, need to buy new and durable mousepad (adds cost)
• Ambidextrous preferred
• Ergonomic priority
• Durability Critical (lasts 3 years or more, 5 years if over $50, 10 years if over $100)
• Plays RPG, RTS, Turn-based Tactics, and Simulators more than FPS
• Limited budget: $100 ceiling, $50 optimum max
• Effective Mouse Area: 12 in W, 12 in

 

[Anghammarad]

2 minutes ago, Aereto_Compuru said:

After 1 year of use, my mouse is showing its wear, I need to get a new one before one of its buttons completely gives in. I use the Logitech Trackman, a trackball mouse that I have used for many years, but seen that the more recent models are not as durable. So I am in the market for a mouse that meets comfort and durability standards. As I work part time, I know if a mouse is too expensive when it costs me almost my paycheck (example being a mouse on my wish list).

 

I can use optical and trackball mice equally, but I use trackball to drastically reduce fatigue and injury risk in the arm and wrist. I may order one within a week, so I'm up for some more research in between gaming and homework.

Considerations:

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• Palm-grip user
• Hand size matches the length of the Logitech Trackman
• If optical mouse, need to buy new and durable mousepad (adds cost)
• Ambidextrous preferred
• Ergonomic priority
• Durability Critical (lasts 3 years or more, 5 years if over $50, 10 years if over $100)
• Plays RPG, RTS, Turn-based Tactics, and Simulators more than FPS
• Limited budget: $100 ceiling, $50 optimum max

 

Why not keeping your Trackman and just replace (solder) the buttons?

 

I did that now 2 times with my MX Performance... really a big issue regarding the price of 70+ bucks and then this quality issues... switches dying after a years use... first the left, then the right one... but due to the ergonomics I bought replacement omron switches and soldered the defective ones out and put the fresh ones in. (2 times because first time only the left, 2nd time only the right)

[Aereto_Compuru]

57 minutes ago, Anghammarad said:

Why not keeping your Trackman and just replace (solder) the buttons?

 

I did that now 2 times with my MX Performance... really a big issue regarding the price of 70+ bucks and then this quality issues... switches dying after a years use... first the left, then the right one... but due to the ergonomics I bought replacement omron switches and soldered the defective ones out and put the fresh ones in. (2 times because first time only the left, 2nd time only the right)

If push comes to shove, I can use my 1st model to take apart, but I need to get reliable source for those switches and make sure that they are actually compatible with the shaping of the buttons before I could do that.

I am a novice when it comes to electronics, but I have just enough experience in soldering and assembly to do it. Just needs steady hands and materials.

Of course, switches better be very durable, so finding parts is a challenge and have to resort to ordering online.

 

>Update: I made the preliminary disassembly of the mouse and took note of the microswitches. While I cannot fully ascertain the manufacturer, it does use pin plunger, operates with 1 Amp, 125 Volt AC, 3 solder pins to the circuit board. If I take this path, I would have to research Omron switches of the same spec, but keep the actuation points in mind, while looking for the right desoldering tools.

[TVwazhere]

17 minutes ago, Aereto_Compuru said:

After 1 year of use, my mouse is showing its wear, I need to get a new one before one of its buttons completely gives in. I use the Logitech Trackman, a trackball mouse that I have used for many years, but seen that the more recent models are not as durable. So I am in the market for a mouse that meets comfort and durability standards. As I work part time, I know if a mouse is too expensive when it costs me almost my paycheck (example being a mouse on my wish list).

 

I can use optical and trackball mice equally, but I use trackball to drastically reduce fatigue and injury risk in the arm and wrist. I may order one within a week, so I'm up for some more research in between gaming and homework.

Considerations:

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• Palm-grip user
• Hand size matches the length of the Logitech Trackman
• If optical mouse, need to buy new and durable mousepad (adds cost)
• Ambidextrous preferred
• Ergonomic priority
• Durability Critical (lasts 3 years or more, 5 years if over $50, 10 years if over $100)
• Plays RPG, RTS, Turn-based Tactics, and Simulators more than FPS
• Limited budget: $100 ceiling, $50 optimum max

 

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-Wireless-Trackball-M570/dp/B0043T7FXE (My boss has this and he really likes it)

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Advanced-Wireless-Trackball-Windows/dp/B0753P1GTS (newer version I think)

[Aereto_Compuru]

1 hour ago, TVwazhere said:

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-Wireless-Trackball-M570/dp/B0043T7FXE (My boss has this and he really likes it)

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Advanced-Wireless-Trackball-Windows/dp/B0753P1GTS (newer version I think)

They are both wireless. Not a con, but a potential dealbreaker if it turns out there is signal interference. I have a Wi-Fi NIC, and I usually plug the USB at the motherboard I/O, while the case's top panel I/O may need to be in use.

I'll take note that they are thumb-operated trackballs (saw that there are complaints in the review that they get pretty uncomfortable for extended periods, and I can use the PC for as long as 12 hours), and wait for more suggestions.

[Hiya!]

4 hours ago, Aereto_Compuru said:

but I use trackball to drastically reduce fatigue and injury risk in the arm and wrist.

Get the logitech MX Master+mousepad with a wrist rest and u wont have that problem.

Its time to switch to an ergonomic office mice.

MX MASTER is known for its good ergonomic and its wireless also use laser sensor so u can use it on any surfaces.

and it has good battery life too

 

[Aereto_Compuru]

On 1/9/2018 at 5:28 PM, Hiya! said:

Get the logitech MX Master+mousepad with a wrist rest and u wont have that problem.

Its time to switch to an ergonomic office mice.

MX MASTER is known for its good ergonomic and its wireless also use laser sensor so u can use it on any surfaces.

and it has good battery life too

 

I'll take note and saw that there is one at ~$60. Considering that it uses laser, there is the known issue with sudden movements not being picked up accurately.

I would have to spend on separate mousepad and wrist rest due to known durability complaints, especially with wristrest integrated mousepads.

The total price would be harder to swallow at your suggestion.

[Hiya!]

24 minutes ago, Aereto_Compuru said:

I'll take note and saw that there is one at ~$60. Considering that it uses laser, there is the known issue with sudden movements not being picked up accurately.

I would have to spend on separate mousepad and wrist rest due to known durability complaints, especially with wristrest integrated mousepads.

The total price would be harder to swallow at your suggestion.

Save up then.

YES it is but it will be fine for non competitive games/gamer.

the darkfield sensor is good enough.

 

[Aereto_Compuru]

Just now, Hiya! said:

Save up then.

YES it is but it will be fine for non competitive games/gamer.

the darkfield sensor is good enough.

 

Just 1 paycheck period will cover the costs.

 

My research on the Master MX came up one major design flaw: The scroll wheel can get stuck at fast-scroll mode, rendering the scroll wheel as uncontrollable as it is useless until I take it apart and fix it. If that happens during important use, there often times that I will not field service them in less than 10 seconds.

[Hiya!]

5 minutes ago, Aereto_Compuru said:

Just 1 paycheck period will cover the costs.

 

My research on the Master MX came up one major design flaw: The scroll wheel can get stuck at fast-scroll mode, rendering the scroll wheel as uncontrollable as it is useless until I take it apart and fix it. If that happens during important use, there often times that I will not field service them in less than 10 seconds.

Afaik its the issues on the original Mx Master and its rarely happen unless u received a faulty one.

 

[Aereto_Compuru]

8 minutes ago, Hiya! said:

Afaik its the issues on the original Mx Master and its rarely happen unless u received a faulty one.

 

Hopefully that would not happen, as RMAs can be a serious problem.

The most recent one related to the problem is last month for the Mx Master. The 2S costs full price, so I am uncertain if it is worth the extra.