Good God. Somebody. Help. Trident Z RGB Issues...

[Novabutter]

Okay. I've been having a plethora of issues, and I'm so fed up with all of them. If a solution here works, I'll gladly pay someone instead of buying new components for hundreds of dollars myself for testing.

 

In short, I built my system back in September and since day 10 have had issues, mostly with BSODs. Most of them point to memory issues, but others also point to graphical driver issues. 

I've bested most of the original BSODs to my knowledge when I reinstalled Windows in December, but a few have arose since then, especially when gaming & surfing the web.

 

I'm mostly worried about my memory issues, as they seem to be more prevalent than anything else, so that can take priority focus.

I'm just going to puke everything I've collected data-wise about the errors, including BSOD error names, dump files, plenty of pictures, and so on.

 

System:

CPU: Ryzen 1600X (Stock)

MB: ASUS ROG Strix X370-F Gaming (Updated to latest BIOS)

RAM: Trident Z RGB 16 GB 3000 Mhz Kit (F4-3000C16-8GTZR) & Trident Z RGb 16 GB 3200 Mhz Kit (F4-3200C16-8GTZR) (Stock 2133 Mhz)

Cooling: NZXT Kraken X52

GPU: (2-way SLI) 2x EVGA GTX 970 FTW w/ ASUS HB SLI Bridge

PSU: Corsair RM 1000X

 

Peripherals:

Case: Corsair 570X

Fans: 6x Corsair LL 120mm Fans

LED Strips: 1x 60mm Cablemod RGB LED Strip, 4x Corsair Addressable RGB LED Strips

Controller: Corsair Commander Pro

 

First off, even if the system doesn't work fully, it looks freaking amazing. Someone agree with me:

 

Alright now; to the troublesome items:

 

Recorded Blue Screens Errors:

 

Spoiler

 

 

BSOD:

(Prior to Windows Reinstall)

 

1. SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION (What failed: Npfs.sys)

Reason: Potential Corrupt Drivers, Bad Memory/Incorrectly setup Memory, and Antivirus.

2. SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION (What failed: dxgmms2.sys)

Reason: Potential Memory OR Driver Issue

 

(Following Windows Reinstall)

 

1. DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (What failed: nvlddmkm.sys)

Reason: Nvidia display drivers priority (IRQL) were too high when they attempted to access invalid memory (memory that is meant for the system only and nothing else), this memory can only be accessed at a minimum IRQL of 1 or 2 (not sure exactly) because IRQL 1 and 2 are for the system (Windows itself), higher is for hardware. Could be memory or Windows.

2. SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION (What failed: nvlddmkm.sys)

Reason: Nvidia Driver is corrupt. Current Driver now installed (388.71)

3. PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (What failed: BasicRender.sys)

Reason: Memory Related

     4.  DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION

Reason: Unknown (because of lack of bugcode)

     5.  IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

Reason: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms854226.aspx

 

(Intentional Driver Verifier Test)

1. DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION (What failed: mbamswissarmy.sys)

Reason: Too variable to identify. Uninstalled malwarebytes to solve problem. Most likely not related to above issues.

Strange Display Error (Prior to Windows Reinstall):

(Attached as 11.17.17 Display Driver Errors.zip)

Came home to a really fuzzy and low resolution screen. Freaked me out at first. Looks like a driver update failed, but hell if I know.

 

Strange Display Error (After Windows Reinstall):

Noticed along with the IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL BSOD that just before it crashed, Nvidia Container started to put 100% load on all my cores. 

 

*Worth mentioning that before every crash, (which is why I think it is memory related) one of the following programs dies:

• CAM (Most frequent)
• Google Chrome (Aww Snap Memory-Related Error)
• Wallpaper Engine

 

Suspected RAM Issues:

(https://drive.google.com/open?id=1JVy64V9-if4-PDiFztq8wHiA-SzOqVjH)

Used Thaiphoon to pull SPD information. CRC Errors on every stick. The first 3000 Mhz stick has two different errors, on occasion only 1 or 2 sticks can be read by Thaiphoon, sometimes pulled SPD Read information is completely wrong or all unknown.

 

Memory Dumps from above BSODs, but I have no idea how to read them (More recent than Old Dump Files below)

 

*I'm aware that Ryzen and Intel Trident Z RGB RAM don't play nicely together, and additionally, neither does Asus Aura, which I use quite frequently. That's why I assume there are memory issues, however I can't confirm that my SPDs are corrupted because there are reads on Thaiphoon that have correct SPD info.*

 

Post on Microsoft Forms:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-performance/bsod-every-week-whats-wrong/7006101f-593e-46ec-a7e5-057afa3f7d46

 

Old Dump Files (Prior to Windows Reinstall):

https://drive.google.com/open?id=11CV7WKIv0xCa1Q09bV8VyNPfRoVyiw74

 

Again, if someone can give me a successful solution and I see it work, I'll happily pay.

 

Just message for any further questions.

 

 

 

11.17.17 Display Driver Errors.zip

[DarkSmith2]

4 minutes ago, Novabutter said:

First off, even if the system doesn't work fully, it looks freaking amazing. Someone agree with me:

thats a nice christmas tree right there

[Ashleyyyy]

so you are using 2 different ram dimms with different speeds? no wonder you are getting BSOD's... that happened to me a lot when i did that.. 

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

so you are using 2 different ram dimms with different speeds? no wonder you are getting BSOD's... that happened to me a lot when i did that.. 

Using older hardware myself. But I use 2 different types/speeds of memory, both running at the same speed. (that's how it works) 4 sticks in total. My pc is totaly stable and will be operational/in use for months on end without a reboot.

[Ashleyyyy]

2 minutes ago, Dutch-stoner said:

Using older hardware myself. But I use 2 different types/speeds of memory, both running at the same speed. (that's how it works) 4 sticks in total. My pc is totaly stable and will be operational/in use for months on end without a reboot.

some boards/chipsets are better with it than others. i used ddr2 667 and 800 mhz dimms together for years in various socket 775 machines, with no issue.

 

but my old laptop completely freaked out when i tried to do the same... i'm talking not even booting to the bios.. 

[Novabutter]

Updated so it includes a link to the RAM Issues File.

 

[Novabutter]

25 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

so you are using 2 different ram dimms with different speeds? no wonder you are getting BSOD's... that happened to me a lot when i did that.. 

And no, they both run at stock (2133 Mhz). As long as the CAS latencies are the same, they will work together fine. Says so in the manual. 

[Ashleyyyy]

Just now, Novabutter said:

And no, they both run at stock (2133 Mhz). As long as the CAS latencies are the same, they will work together fine. Says so in the manual. 

oh okay, you didn't specify that both are running stock. nevermind. 

[johnukguy]

Did you do a clean OS install on an updated BIOS? Also, have you installed the latest AMD chipset drivers, which came out a couple of weeks ago, from the AMD website?

[Ginger_]

Uninstall CAM, that software is a giant piece of bloatware that causes tons of issues. After that run your system through some stress testing and try to make it fail.

[Novabutter]

12 minutes ago, johnukguy said:

Did you do a clean OS install on an updated BIOS? Also, have you installed the latest AMD chipset drivers, which came out a couple of weeks ago, from the AMD website?

Oh no I do need to update the chipset. Thanks for the reminder. I'll try that, but it don't think that's all the issues. If it is, thanks!

[Novabutter]

2 minutes ago, Ginger137 said:

Uninstall CAM, that software is a giant piece of bloatware that causes tons of issues. After that run your system through some stress testing and try to make it fail.

See but I need CAM to change colors on my AIO. As far as I know, CAM isn't causing problems either.

[johnukguy]

1 minute ago, Novabutter said:

Oh no I do need to update the chipset. Thanks for the reminder. I'll try that, but it don't think that's all the issues. If it is, thanks!

Yes, updated BIOS and the new chipset drivers would at least narrow things down a little.

[Ginger_]

1 minute ago, Novabutter said:

See but I need CAM to change colors on my AIO. As far as I know, CAM isn't causing problems either.

Just offering suggestions, It tries to control everything and can cause instability. When I used to have a grid+ in my system I had to use it, 1-2 of my steam games wouldnt even launch if it was running. I've read a few other threads in here that it caused issues as well.

 

Can't hurt to uninstall it, run some tests and if all checks out reinstall it though eh?

[Novabutter]

Just now, Ginger137 said:

Just offering suggestions, It tries to control everything and can cause instability. When I used to have a grid+ in my system I had to use it, 1-2 of my steam games wouldnt even launch if it was running. I've read a few other threads in here that it caused issues as well.

 

Can't hurt to uninstall it, run some tests and if all checks out reinstall it though eh?

True. I will try to do that. Thanks for the suggestion. 

[xg32]

if the ram is one of those CL16 modules then it's the ram, beyond that it's trial and error, also could try using the different slots, 1 stick to see if it stops the bsod.

[Novabutter]

18 hours ago, xg32 said:

if the ram is one of those CL16 modules then it's the ram, beyond that it's trial and error, also could try using the different slots, 1 stick to see if it stops the bsod.

Wait a second, why does it matter if they are CL16 modules?