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17 minutes ago, LJs said:

Do you think this will change with future BIOS updates?

unlikely they are working on new cpus now so it's probably something structural with ryzen, seeing as how sensitive and faster ryzen is on 3200 even vs something like 2666.

 

3066 is close enough :)

Recently I built my first gaming PC, here's the part list https://pcpartpicker.com/b/GrYTwP

 

I decided to do some overclocking because my temps were so good, though for some reason the voltage was 1.5v out of the box? Either way, after some testing I've got my 1800x stable at 3.89GHz at 1.4v with max temps at 73c. Then for my RAM I got that stable at 3066MHz at 1.37v, my RAM is rated to run at 3200MHz but I can't get it to stabilize even at 1.5v.

 

I wanted to know is it safe for my components if I leave them at these voltages? Or would it be possible (at least for my RAM) to up the voltages some more?

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Yes its safe

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RAM can go higher, but otherwise those voltages are fine.

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meh i guess it's safe but not optimal, you might take some lifetime out of your components over time.

 

try focusing your overclocking procedure towards having minimum voltage possible for max OC outcome, you'll find a mathematical line where you have a diminishing return on performance/voltage. try to stay below this line.

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3 hours ago, LJs said:

Recently I built my first gaming PC, here's the part list https://pcpartpicker.com/b/GrYTwP

 

I decided to do some overclocking because my temps were so good, though for some reason the voltage was 1.5v out of the box? Either way, after some testing I've got my 1800x stable at 3.89GHz at 1.4v with max temps at 73c. Then for my RAM I got that stable at 3066MHz at 1.37v, my RAM is rated to run at 3200MHz but I can't get it to stabilize even at 1.5v.

 

I wanted to know is it safe for my components if I leave them at these voltages? Or would it be possible (at least for my RAM) to up the voltages some more?

i'd lower the cpu voltage a bit, ryzen cpus have a hard wall, ur prolly right there and backing off to 3.8 would be very worth it.

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2 hours ago, xg32 said:

i'd lower the cpu voltage a bit, ryzen cpus have a hard wall, ur prolly right there and backing off to 3.8 would be very worth it.

I messed with the BIOS settings some more, and I was able to get the voltage down to 1.35v at 73c. I honestly feel so relieved having lowered the voltage by that much, I read a bit more how others have overclocked their Ryzen and I sort of followed along with their overclocks which really helped a lot! I may try and see if I can't lower it some more, but I do know that this clock speed is as high as I can go with these voltage settings, which I'm comfortable with.

 

Now if I could just get my RAM to run at 3200MHz that'd be great. xD

 

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52 minutes ago, LJs said:

I messed with the BIOS settings some more, and I was able to get the voltage down to 1.35v at 73c. I honestly feel so relieved having lowered the voltage by that much, I read a bit more how others have overclocked their Ryzen and I sort of followed along with their overclocks which really helped a lot! I may try and see if I can't lower it some more, but I do know that this clock speed is as high as I can go with these voltage settings, which I'm comfortable with.

 

Now if I could just get my RAM to run at 3200MHz that'd be great. xD

 

4 sticks of RAM at 3200MHz on Ryzen is probably just going to be a dream right now.  AMD says that you should stay below 1.35V Vcore if you want your chip to last. 

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You won't degrade your chip @1.4.... Even this is kind of babying the chip. You can run 1.4 24/7 with 0 worries. 

If you're that worried, play with the llc setting so that when its idle it'll be lower, but it gets a bit more juice when it needs. Either way, 1.4 is perfectly fine as long as temps are good. 

Only around 1.45 you may start to think about degradation, and even so,  were talking something minor (if temps are good) . above that , approaching 1.5 for 24/7, that's where true degradation will start to be an issue. 

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Just a quick update, I found out I made some rookie mistakes... So I got the overclock stable but my temps were higher than I really wanted them to be. I decided I'd take a look at the thermal paste and see if I applied too much or too little, turns out I did too much and the thermal paste was on the top and bottom of the CPU and there was hardly in the center. I'm not sure how that works, but I went ahead and reapplied it. As I was doing so I found out my front intake fans were backward, so I had 4 exhaust fans essentially, with no air intake. After flipping those around and running the stress tests again I reached a max of 67c vs the previous 73 - 76c! Can y'all tell this is my first time building a PC? xD

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12 hours ago, mlung said:

4 sticks of RAM at 3200MHz on Ryzen is probably just going to be a dream right now.  AMD says that you should stay below 1.35V Vcore if you want your chip to last. 

Do you think this will change with future BIOS updates?

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17 minutes ago, LJs said:

Do you think this will change with future BIOS updates?

unlikely they are working on new cpus now so it's probably something structural with ryzen, seeing as how sensitive and faster ryzen is on 3200 even vs something like 2666.

 

3066 is close enough :)

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55 minutes ago, LJs said:

Do you think this will change with future BIOS updates?

Probably not until they release an update to Ryzen because Ryzen has an integrated memory controller that is built into the CPU.  It's a pity though because Ryzen really benefits from higher memory speed vs Intel. 

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Thanks for the quick replies everyone! 

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