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Can I upgrade to a gtx 960 or gtx 1050 ti?

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cpu: AMD FM2 A6-6400K Dual Core 3,9GHz 

cpu cooling: standard

mobo: ASRock FM2A68M-DG3+  

ram: Crucial 8GB DDR3-1600 

hdd: 1000GB HDD SATAIII  

psu: Don't know which brand or what it's called, it's a 450W

OS: Windows 10 64 bit.

gpu: amd (asus) radeon r7 240 1gb

So can I put any of these GPU's in as a upgrade?

If I can put in both, which one is better?

I can get the gtx 960 from my cousin for 80 euros, gtx 1050 ti would cost me around 170 euros.

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To be honest you'd be bottlenecked by the CPU if you were to upgrade to the 960 or 1050Ti

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Both of those cards will be SEVERLY bottlenecked by your CPU. I wouldn't recommend either, but sure, go for the 960 if you really want it.

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1 minute ago, Theguywhobea said:

Both of those cards will be SEVERLY bottlenecked by your CPU. I wouldn't recommend either, but sure, go for the 960 if you really want it.

I still don't really know what people mean with bottlenecking, like...

That you don't really get the best perfomance out of the cpu or gpu?

 

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1 minute ago, Ofbasecfin said:

I still don't really know what people mean with bottlenecking

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1 minute ago, Ofbasecfin said:

I still don't really know what people mean with bottlenecking, like...

That you don't really get the best perfomance out of the cpu or gpu?

 

A bottleneck means that one component of your pc would be holding back thebes's potential of another. In your case, your cpu would not even able to keep up with your gpu causing a bottleneck.

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2 minutes ago, Ofbasecfin said:

I still don't really know what people mean with bottlenecking, like...

That you don't really get the best perfomance out of the cpu or gpu?

The CPU is responsible for feeding the GPU information to render. When the CPU is too slow and can't keep up, the GPU usage will reduce, and the clock speeds will also likely reduce.

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1 minute ago, Ofbasecfin said:

I still don't really know what people mean with bottlenecking, like...

That you don't really get the best perfomance out of the cpu or gpu?

 

Pretty much yes, but it's not necessarily a big deal if you plan on upgrading the rest of the system at some point in the realistic future. My wife ran a 1060 6Gb on a Thuban 1090T for a while and it performed amazingly well. Now she has a Ryzen, with much better performance but, at the time, it was a worthwhile upgrade in terms of performance gain. Primarily though because she knew she would be upgrading the rest of the system. My advice would be to go for the cheapest card for now, if you really want to, and then perhaps upgrade to an even beefier card when and if you do upgrade the CPU/Mobo and RAM.

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4 minutes ago, Ofbasecfin said:

I still don't really know what people mean with bottlenecking, like...

That you don't really get the best perfomance out of the cpu or gpu?

 

The CPU basically preps frames for the gpu to render. If the CPU is too slow, it won't prep them quick enough and the gpu will basically be waiting on the cpu to finish prepping.

 

Because of this, the GPU ends up spending some of its time idling, reducing performance.

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4 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Watch this...

 

So, which cpu should i upgrade to?

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1 minute ago, Ofbasecfin said:

So, which cpu should i upgrade to?

What's your budget? 

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Go for the cheapest for now. Upgrade later on when and if you do the rest of the system. You'd likely notice more immediate performance improvement, with boot times and so on, with an SSD upgrade now rather than a slight GPU upgrade.

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Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

What's your budget? 

For the cpu?

Maybe 130 euros, is that enough?

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16 minutes ago, Ofbasecfin said:

 

Save your money for the Raven Ridge APUs coming in a month or 2

 

the CPU will be holding you back far too much

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what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

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1 minute ago, johnukguy said:

Go for the cheapest for now. Upgrade later on when and if you do the rest of the system. You'd likely notice more immediate performance improvement, with boot times and so on with an SSD upgrade now than a slight GPU upgrade.

... I really don't care about boot up time tho...

 

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Just now, Streetguru said:

Save your money for the Raven Ridge APUs coming in a month or 2

 

the CPU will be holding you back far too much

I need to save my money anyways

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Just now, Ofbasecfin said:

... I really don't care about boot up time tho...

 

Then go for the cheapest GPU. Seriously though, when you do add an SSD, you'll wonder how you ever lived without it. Ask anyone who has one.

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1 minute ago, johnukguy said:

Then go for the cheapest GPU. Seriously though, when you do add an SSD, you'll wonder how you ever lived without it. Ask anyone who has one.

I know what it feels like to have one, I really don't care, costs too much money to me, all I care about is FPS

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1 minute ago, Ofbasecfin said:

I need to save my money anyways

The Raven Ridge APUs should be basically an R5 1400 + RX 550 hopefully at $200 or less

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2 minutes ago, Ofbasecfin said:

For the cpu?

Maybe 130 euros, is that enough?

Take a look at this... (I know it's over your initial budget but if you could raise it a little that would be amazing)

 

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/nYWxjc 

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On 12/27/2017 at 8:37 PM, Ofbasecfin said:

For the cpu?

Maybe 130 euros, is that enough?

For gtx 960 , pentium g4560 can handle it easily alongside r3 cpus from amd . for price per prefrormances the pentium cpu at 75 dollars is better than the r3 1200 at 110 dollars. So with the pentium you can get a board with it for same 130 euros. With this you can run modern games with bottlenecking your gpu 

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2 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Take a look at this... (I know it's over your initial budget but if you could raise it a little that would be amazing)

 

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/nYWxjc 

That RAM pricing is scary and I'm not sure it's worth it to get a G4560 at this point when AM4 is usually an option for the long haul.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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1 minute ago, Ofbasecfin said:

mine isn't the micro version, plus why the ram?

You'd need DDR4 RAM to upgrade your CPU, just wait for the desktop Ryzen APUs from AMD IMO

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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