Upgrade my laptop to a gaming rig

[CapitalistVN]

Hi all,

I have MacBook Air, but it's slow as hell and can't keep up with my needs now. So I'm going to build a new gaming/light productivity rig. I already have a GTX 1070 lying around, so no need to care about GPU. I also have 8GB of RAM that I stole from my uncle's desktop. I just need a CPU that can handle my demands. I have a few options available:

1. Get a Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7

2. Get a Coffee Lake i5 or i7

3. Wait for Ryzen 2, which, to my knowledge, is going to be released quite soon.

4. Wait for more Coffee Lake options next year, or Ice Lake 10nm?

5. Buy a MacBook Pro and plug a Razer Core into its Thunderbolt 3 port.

Thank guys. Sorry for the long post.

[Droidbot]

either coffeelake i5 8600k now or zen2, better gaming perf than ryzen 

[hconverse02]

I recommend selling both 1070s and getting a 1080ti (if you say you have 2).  1 graphics card > 2 anyday. I recommend ryzen 1.0 and going crazy with rgb and stuff

[faziten]

2 minutes ago, CapitalistVN said:

Hi all,

I have MacBook Air, but it's slow as hell and can't keep up with my needs now. So I'm going to build a new gaming/light productivity rig. I already have a GTX 1070 lying around, so no need to care about GPU. I also have 8GB of RAM that I stole from my uncle's desktop. I just need a CPU that can handle my demands. I have a few options available:

1. Get a Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7

2. Get a Coffee Lake i5 or i7

3. Wait for Ryzen 2, which, to my knowledge, is going to be released quite soon.

4. Wait for more Coffee Lake options next year, or Ice Lake 10nm?

5. Buy a MacBook Pro and plug a Razer Core into its Thunderbolt 3 port.

Thank guys. Sorry for the long post.

You can't beat coffe lake i7 for gaming. Even considering the low PCI lanes count, which amount to nothing gaming wise. It's far tested that even 4x pci 2.0 lanes can feed a Titan Pascal.

[Himommies]

6 minutes ago, hconverse02 said:

recommend ryzen 1.0 and going crazy with rgb and stuff

If you sell both 1070's you can probaly get a 8700k at least

[CapitalistVN]

Yes, but the problem is, in my country Vietnam, we don't have a lot of places to sell pc components, so selling those 1070s is going to be pretty hard. If I decide to sell them then I would have to wait for a while.

[xg32]

2 1070s? u need an 8700 at least

[JoostinOnline]

5 minutes ago, xg32 said:

2 1070s? u need an 8700 at least

That's not at all true.

[xg32]

Just now, JoostinOnline said:

That's not at all true.

the 8600k is already being pushed to 100% by some games, and any ryzen refresh with 6c/12t has the potential to put the 8600k in the dumpsters, but of course, to each his own.

[JoostinOnline]

Just now, xg32 said:

the 8600k is already being pushed to 100% by some games, and any ryzen refresh with 6c/12t has the potential to put the 8600k in the dumpsters, but of course, to each his own.

You're mixing up the 8600k with the 7600k.  If you've got two 1070's, whatever settings you use are going to be GPU intensive.

[xg32]

8 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

You're mixing up the 8600k with the 7600k.  If you've got two 1070's, whatever settings you use are going to be GPU intensive.

uh i own a 8600k, it bottlenecks a 1080 ti in multiple games. the 8700k runs the same game 10fps higher with the 1080 ti on 1440p, sure i can force the 8600k to a higher clock speed but past a certain point (5.1ghz right now) it doesnt make up for the difference. Let alone future games.

 

And let say ryzen has a refresh at 4.5ghz for 250dollars at 6c/12t (it's a long shot but possible), im gonna be looking to sell the 8600k. (i regret the 8600k purchase)

 

Forgot to add: i can actually get a asus board, buy a 8700 (non-k) for 339dollars, save on the heatsink, run the 8700 @102*46 and probably outgame a 8600k for less money.

[JoostinOnline]

5 minutes ago, xg32 said:

uh i own a 8600k, it bottlenecks a 1080 ti in multiple games. the 8700k runs the same game 10fps higher with the 1080 ti on 1440p, sure i can force the 8600k to a higher clock speed but past a certain point (5.1ghz right now) it doesnt make up for the difference. Let alone future games.

 

And let say ryzen has a refresh at 4.5ghz for 250dollars at 6c/12t (it's a long shot but possible), im gonna be looking to sell the 8600k. (i regret the 8600k purchase)

 

Forgot to add: i can actually get a asus board, buy a 8700 (non-k) for 339dollars, save on the heatsink, run the 8700 @102*46 and probably outgame a 8600k for less money.

What resolution are you running at?

[xg32]

3 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

What resolution are you running at?

1440p or 1080p depending on the game, i lose 5-10 fps on the 8600k on almost every game.

[JoostinOnline]

Just now, xg32 said:

1440p or 1080p depending on the game

That explains it.  Usually anyone with a 1080 Ti (or 1070 SLI) is going to be playing at 4K.  In that case, the GPU's will be struggling to keep up, so the CPU doesn't have to work very hard.

[xg32]

Just now, JoostinOnline said:

That explains it.  Usually anyone with a 1080 Ti (or 1070 SLI) is going to be playing at 4K.  In that case, the GPU's will be struggling to keep up, so the CPU doesn't have to work very hard.

yap, still waiting for the monitors next year, gonna stick with the 279Q til then, honestly was disappointed that the 8600k gets used to full (not every game but ya, it's not a big deal with vsync on, i just wish i knew b4 i bought the 8600k.

[Droidbot]

11 minutes ago, xg32 said:

uh i own a 8600k, it bottlenecks a 1080 ti in multiple games. the 8700k runs the same game 10fps higher with the 1080 ti on 1440p, sure i can force the 8600k to a higher clock speed but past a certain point (5.1ghz right now) it doesnt make up for the difference. Let alone future games.

 

And let say ryzen has a refresh at 4.5ghz for 250dollars at 6c/12t (it's a long shot but possible), im gonna be looking to sell the 8600k. (i regret the 8600k purchase)

 

Forgot to add: i can actually get a asus board, buy a 8700 (non-k) for 339dollars, save on the heatsink, run the 8700 @102*46 and probably outgame a 8600k for less money.

what game? 

 

https://www.computerbase.de/2017-10/intel-coffee-lake-8700k-8400-8350k-8100-test/5/#diagramm-performancerating-fps-1920-1080

 

 

[xg32]

11 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

what game? 

 

https://www.computerbase.de/2017-10/intel-coffee-lake-8700k-8400-8350k-8100-test/5/#diagramm-performancerating-fps-1920-1080

 

 

the 2 worst ones that actually uses 100% cpu is assassin creed origins and Dragon Age inquisition, other games like wildlands or even older games like witcher 3/metal gear solid 5 is pretty bad too. (i heard shadow of war is just as bad as origins but i dont own that game), havent tried the destiny 2 yet that came with the card either. (i'm just going thru my games on steams and playing a bit of alot of stuff with the new rigs LOL), just cutting it really close with current games.