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rasesh

Hey there everyone, I would love to hear a suggestion from you guys!

 

I dont want to go overboard and spend too much money on a GPU because simply put I would rather spend extra money elsewhere.

Planning on buying a used GPU.

 

I play mostly MMORPG's (not Korean or asian based like black desert or final fantasy, etc..), FPS, & a couple RTS.

I don't play any single player games.

- World of warcraft (MOP max)

- Wildstar

- Battlefield 2 & 1

- Halo 1-4

- TF2

- Starcraft 2

- Age of empires 3

 

I play in 1080p and would like to get a 1ms & 144Hz monitor.

I dont want a overkill GPU, I want 1 that can do what I want it too.

 

I'm wondering if a Gtx 780 Ti with 3gb vram is fine to play the above games in ultra/full graphical settings.

I also want a smooth 60+ FPS experience in all those games above.

If not what card can handle the above in ultra/full graphical settings with 1080p 144hz 1ms?

 

 

Thanks.

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9 minutes ago, COUPER MILLAR said:

What is your budget? A 1060 6 gb would take care of most of that easily. 

I don’t have a budget set in mind but I do want to make sure I don’t go overboard because that list is literally all I play. 

 

I however do want to make sure that the card can handle it very smoothly with 60+ FPS at all times at 1080p on a 1ms 144hz monitor. 

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5 minutes ago, rasesh said:

I however do want to make sure that the card can handle it very smoothly with 60+ FPS at all times at 1080p on a 1ms 144hz monitor. 

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what's the point of having a 1080p 144Hz monitor if you target 60fps?

 

 

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6 minutes ago, rasesh said:

I don’t have a budget set in mind but I do want to make sure I don’t go overboard because that list is literally all I play. 

 

I however do want to make sure that the card can handle it very smoothly with 60+ FPS at all times at 1080p on a 1ms 144hz monitor. 

i also vote for the 1060 6GB version. for 1080P it is a very capable card that will run most of those at a constant 60+ FPS.

the 780Ti is pretty much comparable with a GTX 970, while the 1060 6GB would be more on par with a GTX 980 i believe.

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

what's the point of having a 1080p 144Hz monitor if you target 60fps?

 

 

it seems to me he's more targeting a 60fps minimum rather than 60 average

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

what's the point of having a 1080p 144Hz monitor if you target 60fps?

 

 

Just saying I want to make sure I get a smooth experience which is usually 60+ fps.

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Just now, Vegetable said:

it seems to me he's more targeting a 60fps minimum rather than 60 average

Yes, exactly.

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4 minutes ago, RollinLower said:

i also vote for the 1060 6GB version. for 1080P it is a very capable card that will run most of those at a constant 60+ FPS.

the 780Ti is pretty much comparable with a GTX 970, while the 1060 6GB would be more on par with a GTX 980 i believe.

The 780 Ti is in between a 970 and 980. Better then a 970 and a little less then a 980.

1060 is worse then a 980 apart from the vram.

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A 1060 6gb will work great!

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Just now, Doomed83 said:

Your machine specs might be useful here.

i7 6700k

Asus Z270i

Noctua d9l

16gb 3200mhz ddr4

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3 minutes ago, Douglas The Duck said:

A 1060 6gb will work great!

Would you rather not get a faster card used like a Gtx 980?

Reason I ask is because the 980 is better performance wise but lacks 2gb vram.

Is that 2gb extra vram the reason you picked the 1060? Because performance wise the older 980 beats it.

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10 minutes ago, rasesh said:

Just saying I want to make sure I get a smooth experience which is usually 60+ fps.

Then you are still better off with a 1080p 75Hz to 100Hz monitor. 144Hz is just wasting money. Also having frame rate much lower than the refresh rate will lead to noticeable screen tearing. Freesync monitors can help a bit, but older 200 and 300 series cards are too weak and Polaris cards are hard to find a good deal.

 

 

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

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1 minute ago, rasesh said:

Would you rather not get a faster card used like a Gtx 980?

Reason I ask is because the 980 is better performance wise but lacks 2gb vram.

Is that 2gb extra vram the reason you picked the 1060? Because performance wise the older 980 beats it.

Look that's just my 2 cents. 

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Then you are still better off with a 1080p 75Hz to 100Hz monitor. 144Hz is just wasting money. Also having frame rate much lower than the refresh rate will lead to noticeable screen tearing. Freesync monitors can help a bit, but older 200 and 300 series cards are too weak and Polaris cards are hard to find a good deal.

 

 

Oh I wasn't aware of that.

So if my FPS is lower then the 144hz monitor it basically won't look good correct?

Even if the monitor is 100hz and my FPS is 60-ish it'll look bad?

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1 minute ago, rasesh said:

Oh I wasn't aware of that.

So if my FPS is lower then the 144hz monitor it basically won't look good correct?

Even if the monitor is 100hz and my FPS is 60-ish it'll look bad?

You can lower the 144Hz monitor's refresh rate manually to something like 90, but in that case might as well get a cheaper one with lower refresh rate.

 

Another way is to lower the graphics settings so frame rate does reach that high.

 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

You can lower the 144Hz monitor's refresh rate manually to something like 90, but in that case might as well get a cheaper one with lower refresh rate.

 

Another way is to lower the graphics settings so frame rate does reach that high.

 

So where does v-sync come into play in this matter exactly?

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21 minutes ago, rasesh said:

So where does v-sync come into play in this matter exactly?

v-sync is a frame rate limiter, so it doesnt kick in this time. What matters is adaptive refresh rate, G-sync and Freesync namely. Gsync is absurdly expensive and Freesync only works with AMD cards which are either hard to find a good deal on or too weak for your requirements.

 

Cards that makes sense for a 1080p 144Hz monitor at these games with ultra settings are the 980ti, 1070 and Vega 56(target 140fps average and 80fps minimum). If you can lower your requirements to high settings then a 980 or 1060 6gb or RX580 will suffice (target 120fps average and 60fps minumum). At ultra the mid tier cards can only push average of 90fps. These do exclude Starcraft 2 since it is very heavy on the CPU and light on GPU(you are only going to get 90fps average on that mind you)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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35 minutes ago, rasesh said:

i7 6700k

Asus Z270i

Noctua d9l

16gb 3200mhz ddr4

Surely far more than what you needed for e-sports at 1080p... any ways like others stated teh GTX 1060 6gb should be enough but if you want to go GTX 1070 since better safe than sorry it is up to you.

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