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I managed to snag an i7 8700. Since it's locked, and MCE doesn't work, and it's max turbo is 4.3ghz on all cores, would something like a Hyper 212 Evo keep it rock solid at 4.3ghz with reasonable temps? I was planning on an NH D15 if I had gotten an 8700k, but a $100 cooler for a locked CPU seems a bit wasteful. Any other recommendations? Preferably air cooled. Thanks for any input!!!

 

Update: I decided on the Cryorig H7. Under 50 and it's cooler and quieter than the 212. Thanks for the recommendations! 

Main System: EVGA GTX 1080 SC, i7 8700, 16GB DDR4 Corsair LPX 3000mhz CL15, Asus Z370 Prime A, Noctua NH D15, EVGA GQ 650W, Fractal Design Define R5, 2TB Seagate Barracuda, 500gb Samsung 850 Evo
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The hyper 212 is a very good choice and I think it should work just fine. Myself on the other hand, I'd probably get a small liquid cooler or something.

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1 minute ago, Keppla Gaming said:

The hyper 212 is a very good choice and I think it should work just fine. Myself on the other hand, I'd probably get a small liquid cooler or something.

I was thinking about that, but any liquid cooler (even the cheaper 120mm cooler master Masterliquid Lite) is at least double the cost. I've also had 3 watercoolers fail on all (luckily never a leak) so I'm kinda sick of liqui coolers. I appreciate the advice though!

Main System: EVGA GTX 1080 SC, i7 8700, 16GB DDR4 Corsair LPX 3000mhz CL15, Asus Z370 Prime A, Noctua NH D15, EVGA GQ 650W, Fractal Design Define R5, 2TB Seagate Barracuda, 500gb Samsung 850 Evo
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hyper 212 evo should be just fine, since your not overclocking or anything

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You'd be fine with stock, unless you are planning on running heavy rendering etc. 212 is good, but there are better ones. H7 would be 1st pick if available, Pure Rock for bit more.

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Unless they've changed it over the years, I'm not the hugest fan of the Hyper 212 mounting mechanism, and the fan they use doesn't have the greatest acoustic profile (though should be fine at low rpm). Also, it's still heatpipe direct touch, which is usually a bit worse and less consistent. On the smaller chips only two of the heatpipes really go over the CPU cores, though obviously the others are still doing work. It's a fine budget pick but here I would consider others too.

 

I wouldn't rule out the shorter tower coolers, those with 92 mm fans, for example, given that you're not OCing. A smaller cooler also interferences less with slots, headers, etc. near the socket. Maybe the Cryorig M9i, for example. Don't spend more than like $25 on this.

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People are going to tell you you'll be fine with stock but I disagree. Remember the turbo is quite big on this gen, they can run pretty hot and they fluctuate. I have the 8700K, and even with my overclocks off it ran pretty toasty and fluctuated HEAVILY. A split second of usage and temps go up 20C, I wouldn't run stock with this cooler.

I'd get one of the mid-range air coolers, something from Cryorig, the Hyper 212 or one of its variants, maybe a Be Quiet dark rock 3, something along those lines. 

You can even get a 120mm AIO if you don't like big heatsinks. Just don't run stock cooler, it'll be running loud and fast.

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2 hours ago, loculus said:

Unless they've changed it over the years, I'm not the hugest fan of the Hyper 212 mounting mechanism, and the fan they use doesn't have the greatest acoustic profile (though should be fine at low rpm). Also, it's still heatpipe direct touch, which is usually a bit worse and less consistent. On the smaller chips only two of the heatpipes really go over the CPU cores, though obviously the others are still doing work. It's a fine budget pick but here I would consider others too.

 

I wouldn't rule out the shorter tower coolers, those with 92 mm fans, for example, given that you're not OCing. A smaller cooler also interferences less with slots, headers, etc. near the socket. Maybe the Cryorig M9i, for example. Don't spend more than like $25 on this.

Christ, the 212 mounting system.. jesus.

I mounted one of them for my friends build and it moved side to side.. I took it off and put it back on and just ended up leaving it tightened down. It still moves side to side (only if you really force it though). What a crappy mounting system.

Main Rig

CPU: Ryzen 2700X 
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Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair VII Hero
RAM: 16GB (2x8) Trident Z RGB 3200MHZ
SSD: Samsung 960 EVO NVME SSD 1TB, Intel 1TB NVME

Graphics Card: Asus ROG Strix GTX 1080Ti OC

Case: Phanteks Evolv X
Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Platinum-Rated

Radiator Fans: 3x Corsair ML120
Case Fans: 4x be quiet! Silent Wings 3

 

 

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Just now, Armakar said:

People are going to tell you you'll be fine with stock but I disagree. Remember the turbo is quite big on this gen, they can run pretty hot and they fluctuate. I have the 8700K, and even with my overclocks off it ran pretty toasty and fluctuated HEAVILY. A split second of usage and temps go up 20C, I wouldn't run stock with this cooler.

I'd get one of the mid-range air coolers, something from Cryorig, the Hyper 212 or one of its variants, maybe a Be Quiet dark rock 3, something along those lines. 

You can even get a 120mm AIO if you don't like big heatsinks. Just don't run stock cooler, it'll be running loud and fast.

I bought a Cryorig H7. It looks like a decently cool, quiet option. 

Main System: EVGA GTX 1080 SC, i7 8700, 16GB DDR4 Corsair LPX 3000mhz CL15, Asus Z370 Prime A, Noctua NH D15, EVGA GQ 650W, Fractal Design Define R5, 2TB Seagate Barracuda, 500gb Samsung 850 Evo
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1 minute ago, Zeitec said:

I bought a Cryorig H7. It looks like a decently cool, quiet option. 

That's a solid choice, yeah. Cryorig make great air coolers. These mid-range aircoolers are fantastic price-performance they're unbeatable.

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RAM: 16GB (2x8) Trident Z RGB 3200MHZ
SSD: Samsung 960 EVO NVME SSD 1TB, Intel 1TB NVME

Graphics Card: Asus ROG Strix GTX 1080Ti OC

Case: Phanteks Evolv X
Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Platinum-Rated

Radiator Fans: 3x Corsair ML120
Case Fans: 4x be quiet! Silent Wings 3

 

 

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12 hours ago, Armakar said:

Christ, the 212 mounting system.. jesus.

I mounted one of them for my friends build and it moved side to side.. I took it off and put it back on and just ended up leaving it tightened down. It still moves side to side (only if you really force it though). What a crappy mounting system.

 

Still easier than DR3 from what I saw in SYW6.

 

12 hours ago, Zeitec said:

I bought a Cryorig H7. It looks like a decently cool, quiet option. 

Thats solid choice.

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On 4.11.2017 at 12:56 AM, Zeitec said:

I bought a Cryorig H7. It looks like a decently cool, quiet option. 

Hey man, sorry I restore old topic, but I need to ask - does H7 allows for you to run at 4,3ghz all cores non-stop? What case do you have and what temps do you get max on your cpu during load? I'd really appreciate if you answer!

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3 hours ago, Verrm said:

Hey man, sorry I restore old topic, but I need to ask - does H7 allows for you to run at 4,3ghz all cores non-stop? What case do you have and what temps do you get max on your cpu during load? I'd really appreciate if you answer!

I replaced it with an NH D15. It worked just fine for gaming 4.3ghz all cores non stop with a max of 78 degrees. The moment I put it under stress like cibebench or prime it went to 95 degrees and throttled. My number D15 never breaks 85 even under prime 95 avx. 

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I am very satisfied with my 212X, silent and keeps it to 65~68Cº max... 4.3ghz all core all day long:

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11 hours ago, Zeitec said:

I replaced it with an NH D15. It worked just fine for gaming 4.3ghz all cores non stop with a max of 78 degrees. The moment I put it under stress like cibebench or prime it went to 95 degrees and throttled. My number D15 never breaks 85 even under prime 95 avx. 

 

11 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

I am very satisfied with my 212X, silent and keeps it to 65~68Cº max... 4.3ghz all core all day long:

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Thanks to both of you for this information. Looks like a case that makes a difference here. Since H7 and 212x tend to perform similarly and I see that Princess Cadence have nice airflow case and better temps. I cannot believe that 8700 with NH D15 goes up to 85 if you have a good airflow unless you have like 35C ambient temp. Although seeing no exhaust fan at the back of your case Cadence I think your temps might even be improved... at the expense of more noise though... Also realistically you could run at 78C when gaming no probs. You can also apply better thermal paste then stock one. How often do you buy 8700 for your PC and run workloads for long enough to push it over gaming temps?

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13 hours ago, Verrm said:

I cannot believe that 8700 with NH D15 goes up to 85 if you have a good airflow unless you have like 35C ambient temp. 

That's not right. Something is either heavily restricting airflow or voltages are too high. 

 

@Zeitec Are you sure that MCE is turned off?

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1 hour ago, WoodenMarker said:

That's not right. Something is either heavily restricting airflow or voltages are too high. 

 

@Zeitec Are you sure that MCE is turned off?

Yeah, I tuned voltages as low as possible. Anything below 1.215 volts blue screens. I reinstalled the cooler twice, and my cryorig h7 was worse. Maybe the airflow in my define r5 is bad, it's stock right now with the top hard drive cage removed with the front closed with a dust filter I clean weekly. I use a 1080sc. I'm just reporting what I'm seeing. 

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Yeah, I tuned voltages as low as possible. Anything below 1.215 volts blue screens. I reinstalled the cooler twice, and my cryorig h7 was worse. Maybe the airflow in my define r5 is bad, it's stock right now with the top hard drive cage removed with the front closed with a dust filter I clean weekly. I use a 1080sc. I'm just reporting what I'm seeing. 

What case fans are you using?

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3 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

What case fans are you using?

Not sure what the model is, I'm using the 140mm ones included with the Define R5 blackout. One intake one exhaust. 

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1 minute ago, Zeitec said:

Not sure what the brand is, I'm using the 140mm ones included with the Define R5 blackout. One intake one exhaust. 

They're Fractal Design GP-14's. 

I get that you turned down voltages but have you tried just reverting to default settings and turning off MCE?

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2 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

They're Fractal Design GP-14's. 

I get that you turned down voltages but have you tried just reverting to default settings and turning off MCE?

Yeah without tweaking the voltages climb to over 1.4 under full stress test load according to HWMonitor

 

Edit: I'm happy with it though. I don't do prime 95 testing often and I'm comfortable with mid 70s for gaming. 

Main System: EVGA GTX 1080 SC, i7 8700, 16GB DDR4 Corsair LPX 3000mhz CL15, Asus Z370 Prime A, Noctua NH D15, EVGA GQ 650W, Fractal Design Define R5, 2TB Seagate Barracuda, 500gb Samsung 850 Evo
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1 minute ago, Zeitec said:

Yeah without tweaking the voltages climb to over 1.4 under full stress test load according to HWMonitor

Are you sure that MCE is disabled? Even if you turn it off, it'll still be on if you didn't change 'Sync All Cores' to 'Auto'. Sorry if I'm getting a bit repetitive but I'm just trying to be thorough. 

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1 minute ago, WoodenMarker said:

Are you sure that MCE is disabled? Even if you turn it off, it'll still be on if you didn't change 'Sync All Cores' to 'Auto'. Sorry if I'm getting a bit repetitive but I'm just trying to be thorough. 

Maybe that's it, Idk though. I'm at university and my computer is at home. I'll check this weekend. 

Main System: EVGA GTX 1080 SC, i7 8700, 16GB DDR4 Corsair LPX 3000mhz CL15, Asus Z370 Prime A, Noctua NH D15, EVGA GQ 650W, Fractal Design Define R5, 2TB Seagate Barracuda, 500gb Samsung 850 Evo
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