Audio Enchancements Missing after Update 1709

[westport17]

Hi, my audio enhancements are missing (both mic and speakers) from my Audio Setting and my Realtek UI.
Anyone got this issue after updating Windows 10 to 1709?

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[WereCat]

I have the Enhancements available after 1709 but I don't use them.

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ah yes, those tend to come and go mysteriously.  Actually I'm gonna follow this in case anyone can answer since I'd like to know if there is actually any method to the madness.

[sazrocks]

Still there for me. Why use them though?

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5 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

Still there for me. Why use them though?

The "loudness equalization" (basically a compressor/limiter) can be handy in some cases, like WAN show back before they fixed the sound

[sazrocks]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

The "loudness equalization" (basically a compressor/limiter) can be handy in some cases, like WAN show back before they fixed the sound

Ah ok. In my experience they seem to just be incredibly inconsistent and emphasize random frequencies (bass will be strong one moment, next moment the vocals are super strong and the bass is barely noticeable). 

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Just now, sazrocks said:

Ah ok. In my experience they seem to just be incredibly inconsistent and emphasize random frequencies (bass will be strong one moment, next moment the vocals are super strong and the bass is barely noticeable). 

I have noticed it tends to overemphasize bass but it's rare.  you could always combine it with an EQ that cuts bass if you're using it as I said, where sound quality is second in importance to consistency and listening comfort.

[westport17]

14 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

ah yes, those tend to come and go mysteriously.  Actually I'm gonna follow this in case anyone can answer since I'd like to know if there is actually any method to the madness.

Yeah, especially after a big update. Still wondering what's causing this to happen randomly..

14 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

Still there for me. Why use them though?

I'm using EQ since I was using Athlon till now, that's a very big deal for me.

And since I'm still using a basic mic, I have to use noise reduction and acoustic echo cancellation to minimize my speaker volume that my mic receive

#SorryBadEnglish

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Just now, westport17 said:

Yeah, especially after a big update. Still wondering what's causing this to happen randomly..

I'm using EQ since I was using Athlon till now, that's a very big deal for me.

And since I'm still using a basic mic, I have to use noise reduction and acoustic echo cancellation to minimize my speaker volume that my mic receive

#SorryBadEnglish

I'd advise against general use of the built in Windows EQ.  It does some weird things, particularly if you use it to increase the volume of any frequency.  Try EqualizerAPO

[westport17]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I'd advise against general use of the built in Windows EQ.  It does some weird things, particularly if you use it to increase the volume of any frequency.  Try EqualizerAPO

I'm using Realtek's EQ. I just found out about APO today and yes I like it, but it's not that reliable. Sometimes it makes my speaker hum very loud for idk the reason.
Maybe I'll digging more about it. It works well EQing my mic, but not yet on my speakers.

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Just now, westport17 said:

I'm using Realtek's EQ. I just found out about APO today and yes I like it, but it's not that reliable. Sometimes it makes my speaker hum very loud for idk the reason.
Maybe I'll digging more about it. It works well EQing my mic, but not yet on my speakers.

I've never had any issues with it.  I like how controllable it is, you can do literally anything.

I describe how different EQs behave in this post here:

EqualizerAPO used to act like #1 if you just set an EQ and did no preamping, but has since been updated to act like #3, which I'm not a fan of in principal, but in practice it doens't matter since it does offer a preamp (unlike the realtek/windows one) and therefore you can set it up properly (like #2) regardless.

[westport17]

50 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I've never had any issues with it.  I like how controllable it is, you can do literally anything.

I describe how different EQs behave in this post here:

EqualizerAPO used to act like #1 if you just set an EQ and did no preamping, but has since been updated to act like #3, which I'm not a fan of in principal, but in practice it doens't matter since it does offer a preamp (unlike the realtek/windows one) and therefore you can set it up properly (like #2) regardless.

Okay thanks for the suggestion. I'll try to get the most of APO.

Still waiting for anyone who can fix this original issue.

[westport17]

Got the problem. It Equalizer APO that made my Enhancements disappear.
I remembered that after I upgrade to 1709 I also installed APO and enable it in my system.

After I disable it, my enhancements got back, with all its last setting.

 

I'm so sorry for my dumbness on this. Thanks for the answers you guys gave.