Ryzen 5 1600, i5 8600k or i5 8400

[Ben Cameron]

Just recently, the 8th gen Intel cpus released, and looking at benchmarks, the results seem really good. With my current build - https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Dioxyq/saved/DWLGXL - I have a Ryzen 1600 and a 1070, and the price comes out at around $1700 AUD (all parts bought from amazon and umart). Obviously, the i5 8600k has better performance in gaming, however, it costs $50 AUD more. My question is this: will the upgrade from the 1600 to the 8600k be worth the extra $50 AUD for gaming, when paired with the 1070? And how much extra performance will I get in games with a 1070. The 8400 released with 8th gen as well, for $20 cheaper, would this cpu be worth it? Please keep in mind that if the 8400 will give me decreased performance, I won't consider it for $20 less.

[Ben Cameron]

1 minute ago, Ben Cameron said:

Just recently, the 8th gen Intel cpus released, and looking at benchmarks, the results seem really good. With my current build - https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Dioxyq/saved/DWLGXL - I have a Ryzen 1600 and a 1070, and the price comes out at around $1700 AUD (all parts bought from amazon and umart). Obviously, the i5 8600k has better performance in gaming, however, it costs $50 AUD more. My question is this: will the upgrade from the 1600 to the 8600k be worth the extra $50 AUD for gaming, when paired with the 1070? And how much extra performance will I get in games with a 1070. The 8400 released with 8th gen as well, for $20 cheaper, would this cpu be worth it? Please keep in mind that if the 8400 will give me decreased performance, I won't consider it for $20 less.

p.s. I do care about multitasking capability, but not nearly as much as general gaming performance.

[Jurrunio]

Coffee i5s arent worth buying if you already have Ryzen 1600. Either stay with Ryzen or get i7.

[Phat Beatsies]

Personally If i was doing light multitasking and mostly using the thing for gaming I'd go with the 8600k as it allows you to overclock vs the 8400, and you will get better frames from the 8600k. Though you also have to consider that means you'll have to spend more to get a motherboard that can overclock and if your overclock an aftermarket CPU cooler is a must. If you really want absolute gaming performance go with the 8600k as you can upgrade to the 8700k if you really need more multitasking performance. 

[HKZeroFive]

If you already have the R5 1600, there's no point in looking for a Coffee Lake upgrade... unless you're somehow very dissatisfied with your performance.

 

EDIT: Okay, wording caught me off guard. You need to spell it out more clearly because it's confusing.

 

Generally, the CPUs rank in this order for gaming performance: i5-8600K > i5-8400 > R5 1600. "Is it worth it?" is very much a relative term. That's up to you.

 

Personally, I would get the i5-8400 and pair that with fast memory. Better than overclocking the chip.

[JoostinOnline]

Just to clarify, do you already OWN a 1600?

[Ben Cameron]

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Coffee i5s arent worth buying if you already have Ryzen 1600. Either stay with Ryzen or get i7.

Sorry, I wrote my explanation really badly. I have not yet built a pc, just choosing which one I should go with.

[Ben Cameron]

2 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Just to clarify, do you already OWN a 1600?

No, sorry I explained really badly.

[Ben Cameron]

8 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

If you already have the R5 1600, there's no point in looking for a Coffee Lake upgrade... unless you're somehow very dissatisfied with your performance.

 

EDIT: Okay, wording caught me off guard. You need to spell it out more clearly because it's confusing.

 

Generally, the CPUs rank in this order for gaming performance: i5-8600K > i5-8400 > R5 1600. "Is it worth it?" is very much a relative term. That's up to you.

 

Personally, I would get the i5-8400 and pair that with fast memory. Better than overclocking the chip.

thanks for the help.

[Ben Cameron]

10 minutes ago, Darkworld Siege said:

Personally If i was doing light multitasking and mostly using the thing for gaming I'd go with the 8600k as it allows you to overclock vs the 8400, and you will get better frames from the 8600k. Though you also have to consider that means you'll have to spend more to get a motherboard that can overclock and if your overclock an aftermarket CPU cooler is a must. If you really want absolute gaming performance go with the 8600k as you can upgrade to the 8700k if you really need more multitasking performance. 

I don't want to go too far out of my budget, and I'm not looking to overclock heavily due to not wanting to spend a lot on an aftermarket cooler. Would the 8400 be a better option?

[Phat Beatsies]

2 minutes ago, Ben Cameron said:

I don't want to go too far out of my budget, and I'm not looking to overclock heavily due to not wanting to spend a lot on an aftermarket cooler. Would the 8400 be a better option?

The 8400 only have a base frequency of 2.8 ghz and turbos to 3.6 ghz  so that could hurt you in some ways especially in multitasking, so honestly, the 8600k is your best bet as it is 3.8 ghz base and 4.8 ghz turbo.

[Ben Cameron]

Just now, Darkworld Siege said:

The 8400 only have a base frequency of 2.8 ghz and turbos to 3.6 ghz  so that could hurt you in some ways especially in multitasking, so honestly, the 8600k is your best bet as it is 3.8 ghz base and 4.8 ghz turbo.

8600k sounds a lot better. I want to know how much that will affect gaming performance with a 1070, because the graphics card is usually the bottle neck in most games, so it might not make a whole lot of difference.

[Phat Beatsies]

It's around 3-10 FPS difference in most games so if that really matters then go for it. Also if your monitor can't go above 60 FPS then there's not much to worry about. go for the cheaper one if budget matters most.

[Ben Cameron]

Just now, Darkworld Siege said:

It's around 3-10 FPS difference in most games so if that really matters then go for it. Also if your monitor can't go above 60 FPS then there's not much to worry about. go for the cheaper one if budget matters most.

Ok, I think I'll go with the 8600k. Thanks for your help.

[Ben Cameron]

37 minutes ago, Ben Cameron said:

Ok, I think I'll go with the 8600k. Thanks for your help.

Although, looking at the price right now, the cpu is much higher on amazon then the recommended price on the intel page, so i'll have to wait for it to come done, which is fine.