General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[Slayer3032]

13 hours ago, m4shroom said:

I adjusted ram voltage like 1.64 nothing changed .maybe I couldnt describe my problem exactly .with i7920 When I turn on computer led display keep showing the codes just in order.with x5675 its stuck at c1 code like 10-12 secs and blinking once or twice   I tought it reboots itself.So it adds 10-15 seconds more to open compared to i7920 installed.I have played lots of hours games.No problem at all.ACtually I  have satisfied More than I tought.Lower power consumption,a lot less heat to deal etc.Btw Idont care if its 1333 or 1600 its not the issue which its gonna get closer maybe higher when I overclock it via blck So its not problem  .I just want my 10-15 seconds back

Thx for your answer dude.

My Gigabyte board does all sorts of wacky stuff, it won't even post at stock settings with the ram I have in it so if it decides that "overclocking failed" I have to pull a stick and put in some other random stick that I have. It always cycles post codes a few times before actually making it through on a cold boot. As far as boot times, disabling all of your sata ports that aren't being used and selecting your boot drive as #1 in your boot order can help a good bit so it's not checking all of your USB devices first, ect. The other thing that really makes a huge difference is the disabling the 2-3 extra "bios" that you aren't using which the board loads through before booting to an OS. eSata should always be disabled, sata3 is also useless and should be disabled as the chipset sata2 often performs better.

 

You could also try setting your tertiary timings, and taking as many things off of auto as possible. Sometimes I feel like that can help, but it's probably mostly placebo. If you're concerned about boot times, don't feel too bad as I have a buddy with a Z170 Asus board that takes minutes to even post the moment you overclock anything on the board. His EVGA E758 board boots twice as fast off of a spare $20 120gb Team Lite sata ssd as his Z170/6600k/NVMe build.

 

I personally just put my computer in sleep mode, it took a while to knock down all the various devices that like to wake up the computer but usually it will stay in sleep mode until I hit a key on the keyboard.

[bimmerman]

Whelp this isn't encouraging. Got the sr2 assembled and it wont post-- immediately shows an FF code, and three red LEDs by the pcie slots are on.

 

Gonna dig into it more tomorrow, but I'm not super thrilled. Also seems like the seller forgot to send the IO shield.... Not like thats the issue but it is annoying. I wonder whether the crappy shipping killed the board.

[bimmerman]

1 hour ago, bimmerman said:

Whelp this isn't encouraging. Got the sr2 assembled and it wont post-- immediately shows an FF code, and three red LEDs by the pcie slots are on.

 

Gonna dig into it more tomorrow, but I'm not super thrilled. Also seems like the seller forgot to send the IO shield.... Not like thats the issue but it is annoying. I wonder whether the crappy shipping killed the board.

Update-- it will post with either CPU jumpered and disabled, doesn't matter which. It won't post with both.

 

Also one cpu only recognizes 4/6 ram sticks.

 

Much fun such wow so sr2

[bimmerman]

Update update-- IT LIVES!!!

 

Symptoms last night: would not post with both CPU enabled. Immediate FF post code and no progress beyond. The SR-2 has jumpers to let you electrically isolate an individual CPU. Using these, I figured out the CPUs were fine they just refused to talk to each other. CPU0 also only recognized 2 DIMM channels.

 

Solution the first: turns out there was a blob of dried thermal paste under between CPU0 and the pins. The board was shipped to me with the CPUs installed so I hadn't bothered to look.

 

Cleaned that out and BAM! Happily posts with both CPU enabled. Next problem: figure out why only 40GB is recognized out of the 48. CPU1 has all 24GB recognized.

 

Solution the second: one rotated pin in CPU0 socket, and another much smaller speck of paste that was covering a pin.

 

Fixed that and holy balls I have 12 cores and 48 rams! Time for a bike ride and then to install an OS.

 

Also, for scale reference-- the box its in is my Meshify C's shipping box. This thing is huge!

 

 

 

 

[the pudding]

On 2/23/2020 at 7:47 PM, bimmerman said:

 

 

 

 

P R E T T Y

[GrockleTD]

Should be able to pick these for a reasonable price

 

x58 https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-P6X58D-E-LGA-1366-Socket-B-Intel-Motherboard/324083565898?epid=82684344&hash=item4b74e2c54a%3Ag%3AE88AAOSwlj9eQkka&LH_ItemCondition=3000

 

x79 https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-GA-X79-UD3-Motherboard-with-Intel-Core-i7-3820-CPU-3-60GHZ/372964670002?hash=item56d66d3a32%3Ag%3ACgcAAOSwPCFeU-wq&LH_ItemCondition=3000

 

x99 https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Z440-710324-002-761514-001-Intel-X99-LGA-2011-2011-3-Workstation-Motherboard/164048908939?epid=1173951964&hash=item263213b28b%3Ag%3AdPwAAOSwljFeLPSl&LH_ItemCondition=3000

[Zando_]

26 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

Should be able to pick these for a reasonable price

 

x58 https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-P6X58D-E-LGA-1366-Socket-B-Intel-Motherboard/324083565898?epid=82684344&hash=item4b74e2c54a%3Ag%3AE88AAOSwlj9eQkka&LH_ItemCondition=3000

 

x79 https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-GA-X79-UD3-Motherboard-with-Intel-Core-i7-3820-CPU-3-60GHZ/372964670002?hash=item56d66d3a32%3Ag%3ACgcAAOSwPCFeU-wq&LH_ItemCondition=3000

 

x99 https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Z440-710324-002-761514-001-Intel-X99-LGA-2011-2011-3-Workstation-Motherboard/164048908939?epid=1173951964&hash=item263213b28b%3Ag%3AdPwAAOSwljFeLPSl&LH_ItemCondition=3000

If you win the bids, yes. First board is nice, second is eeeh haven't ever heard much good of Gigabyte's BIOS/UEFI setups, 3rd naaah avoid OEM boards if you can. These platforms don't really come into their own until above 4Ghz on the core, even if that board supports OCing, it defo does not have the VRMs for it. 

 

This just ain't it chief:

If you were just planning to get a locked Xeon and run a server though, then it would be fine. Depends if you wanna go the enthusiast performance path or server stuff. 

[GrockleTD]

13 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

If you were just planning to get a locked Xeon and run a server though, then it would be fine. Depends if you wanna go the enthusiast performance path or server stuff.

My thought process was that it is reasonably cheap, and would likely be better quality of a stopgap board than chinesium

[Zando_]

46 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

My thought process was that it is reasonably cheap, and would likely be better quality of a stopgap board than chinesium

Still more expensive than just getting the better board in the first place. Let's say you find a good board for $120-150, if you bought this first you would have actually spent $200-230 on getting a good X99 board. If you were gonna spend that much, you could have spent it all in one go and gotten an even better board. 

Like me getting a B450 board but then wanting to muck around with SLI so I had to get X470, I paid more in the long run than if I just bought the nice board in the first place. 

Or me buying a 5820K as a "stopgap" before getting what I really wanted, a 5960X. That's less of a waste though since I still use that CPU in another rig (with a mobo that I scored for only $50). Whereas if you end up with two mobos, you either have to sell one, or track down a CPU and the rest of the components for it and do another rig, adding more cost. 

It's just easier to get the board that does what you want in the first place. No point in buying a board alone (aka not part of a combo deal with other parts you want) just to replace it in future. If you're determined to get a stopgap board, get a much cheaper one. That board is 50-60% of what just getting a nice board in the first place would cost you. 

[Pasi123]

2 hours ago, GrockleTD said:

Should be able to pick these for a reasonable price

 

x58 https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-P6X58D-E-LGA-1366-Socket-B-Intel-Motherboard/324083565898?epid=82684344&hash=item4b74e2c54a%3Ag%3AE88AAOSwlj9eQkka&LH_ItemCondition=3000

 

x79 https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-GA-X79-UD3-Motherboard-with-Intel-Core-i7-3820-CPU-3-60GHZ/372964670002?hash=item56d66d3a32%3Ag%3ACgcAAOSwPCFeU-wq&LH_ItemCondition=3000

 

x99 https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Z440-710324-002-761514-001-Intel-X99-LGA-2011-2011-3-Workstation-Motherboard/164048908939?epid=1173951964&hash=item263213b28b%3Ag%3AdPwAAOSwljFeLPSl&LH_ItemCondition=3000

HP Z440 Workstation most likely has a proprietary power connector. At least the older X58 based Z400 has.

 

That Asus P6X58D-E is a nice board. I have one in my main PC.

[GrockleTD]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-Technology-GA-X99-SOC-Champion-LGA-2011-Intel-Motherboard/293492353177?epid=216162143&hash=item445581e899:g:wzgAAOSwIpReVhWu

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-X99A-SLI-PLUS-Intel-Motherboard-And-E5-2609-V3-6-core-CPU/254497382785?epid=216098166&hash=item3b4139e181:g:GMwAAOSwSw5eMjT7

[Zando_]

4 hours ago, GrockleTD said:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-Technology-GA-X99-SOC-Champion-LGA-2011-Intel-Motherboard/293492353177?epid=216162143&hash=item445581e899:g:wzgAAOSwIpReVhWu

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-X99A-SLI-PLUS-Intel-Motherboard-And-E5-2609-V3-6-core-CPU/254497382785?epid=216098166&hash=item3b4139e181:g:GMwAAOSwSw5eMjT7

Both look like nice boards, either have the OC Socket? IIRC that was an option on some Gigabyte boards, and on some ASUS X99 boards. It's basically got extra pins that let some more voltage to to certain places, letting you hit uncore clocks over the normal 3.6-3.7GHz wall, without needing to mod your CPU itself. 

https://hwbot.org/news/11337_der8auers_guide_for_haswell_e_4ghz_uncore_for_all_motherboards/

He was using two Gigabyte boards, a SOC Force without the OC socket, and an LN2 version with it. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

21 hours ago, Pasi123 said:

HP Z440 Workstation most likely has a proprietary power connector.

If I recall correctly, the Z440 has a proprietary PSU in addition to power connectors. It's been almost a year since I last messed with one of those boards, though.

[Pasi123]

2 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

If I recall correctly, the Z440 has a proprietary PSU in addition to power connectors. It's been almost a year since I last messed with one of those boards, though.

There seems to be adapters for the Z440 and Z640

https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000125099914.html

[Zando_]

15 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

There seems to be adapters for the Z440 and Z640

https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000125099914.html

Oho! Probably best for people trying to keep one of these towers alive though, I still don't think it's advisable to buy the mobo from one when there's plenty of much better options available for not that much more. 

[Pasi123]

2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Oho! Probably best for people trying to keep one of these towers alive though, I still don't think it's advisable to buy the mobo from one when there's plenty of much better options available for not that much more. 

That's not really a good option for someone who has the whole system because the PSU isn't standard ATX size.

[Slayer3032]

I'm having a little bit of a dilemma right now over some not Intel HEDT hardware but I feel like this thread would be the most applicable since it contains the more people who would be interested. I have some great old AMD hardware that's been laying around for like a year that is parts and pieces that I've picked up from different places. However, all together it has the downside of overall performing not great despite being really high end and apparently somewhat rare. I was gonna post the whole thing on craigslist for $125 but a quick ebay search suggests that the cpu is actually hard to get your hands on and there's only like 3 on ebay for $180~ in China.

 

Anyways it's a ROG Crosshair IV Extreme and a Phenom II X6 1100T, with a 2x4gb Ripjaws kit that came on the board. I sold the 955 that came in it in a build that paid for all of the parts I had picked up at the time.

 

 

Should I just list this on craigslist? The 1100T doesn't support SSE4.2 or whatever instruction set EAC and a bunch of new games require, it's a total joke compared to X58 but on the other hand it's really cool and I know there's some people out there with love for Phenoms. I don't have any purpose for it, the chipset runs warm after a repaste and the fan is noisy so I wouldn't want to use it as an upgrade to a Q6600 build that's kicking around in the family just in case it were to ever fail. That thing already has a ghetto gpu fan screwed to it's chipset... Not to mention it's not standard ATX, ect.

[Zando_]

4 hours ago, Slayer3032 said:

I'm having a little bit of a dilemma right now over some not Intel HEDT hardware but I feel like this thread would be the most applicable since it contains the more people who would be interested. I have some great old AMD hardware that's been laying around for like a year that is parts and pieces that I've picked up from different places. However, all together it has the downside of overall performing not great despite being really high end and apparently somewhat rare. I was gonna post the whole thing on craigslist for $125 but a quick ebay search suggests that the cpu is actually hard to get your hands on and there's only like 3 on ebay for $180~ in China.

 

Anyways it's a ROG Crosshair IV Extreme and a Phenom II X6 1100T, with a 2x4gb Ripjaws kit that came on the board. I sold the 955 that came in it in a build that paid for all of the parts I had picked up at the time.

 

-snip-

 

Should I just list this on craigslist? The 1100T doesn't support SSE4.2 or whatever instruction set EAC and a bunch of new games require, it's a total joke compared to X58 but on the other hand it's really cool and I know there's some people out there with love for Phenoms. I don't have any purpose for it, the chipset runs warm after a repaste and the fan is noisy so I wouldn't want to use it as an upgrade to a Q6600 build that's kicking around in the family just in case it were to ever fail. That thing already has a ghetto gpu fan screwed to it's chipset... Not to mention it's not standard ATX, ect.

AFAIK those old Crosshair boards are like the Rampage Extremes and such, they go for a damn lot since they're rare and top end boards. They seem to go for at least $100 for the board alone on eBay, though 1/2-2/3s of those are the Formula, which is one tier down. V Extreme goes for a bit more, they seem to go for around $20-30 less than the Rampage equivalent but still a lot considering the age. If that CPU goes for a lot as well and you don't need a quick sale, list it for $250 (or $300 but leave offers open to see what you get) or so for the combo and see if any Phenom enthusiasts yoink it?

[m4shroom]

HEllo guy its me again xD. I want to upgrade my rams. if I buy 3 of this ram (https://www.vatanbilgisayar.com/gskill-4gb-ripjaws-ddr3-1600mhz-cl9-15v-tek-modul-ram.html) can I run tripple channel ?? 

 mobo: ex58-ud5

[the pudding]

1 minute ago, m4shroom said:

HEllo guy its me again xD. I want to upgrade my rams. if I buy 3 of this ram (https://www.vatanbilgisayar.com/gskill-4gb-ripjaws-ddr3-1600mhz-cl9-15v-tek-modul-ram.html) can I run tripple channel ?? 

 mobo: ex58-ud5

If you have either 3 or 6 that'll be triple channel on boards that support it and all that jazz so you'd do fine there, that's good ram too, was very popular back in the X58 era

[m4shroom]

I ve found a local deal 2 dual kit so if I use 3 of them it will be okay as much as I understand ?

 

edit :  3*4 would be enough just for gaming ?? or should I go for 3*8 ?? 

[the pudding]

2 minutes ago, m4shroom said:

I ve found a local deal 2 dual kit so if I use 3 of them it will be okay as much as I understand ?

 

Ahh yeah that'd be fine, if you got that and just used 3 it'd work fine and all, now, if you at a later date managed to find another dual kit you could also pop that in and you're off to the races, makes upgrading later cheaper too as a result

[m4shroom]

Thx for you help dude You have been really helpfull since I have asked my first question.I really appreciate it ..

[the pudding]

1 minute ago, m4shroom said:

Thx for you help dude You have been really helpfull since I have asked my first question.I really appreciate it ..

not a problem my guy  

[T3DDY14]

Motherboard: Evga sr-2 classified

Cpus: x5690

GPUs: Asus Rog 1070tis

Ram: 48gb ddr3 SK hynix 

Storage: 2*4 tb Seagate Barracuda + 8tb Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk 512gb SSD (for o/s)

Case: Deep silence 6 rev2

PSU: HX1200i

Cooling : 2*hyper212x

Broke 2 Evga sr2s trying to build this one with bad memory controller and one that won't work with 2 CPUs