$2000 budget build for robotics

[Rodee543]

I’m looking for some advice for a build for the robotics team that I help mentor. The primary use is Autodesk Inventor to build the team’s robots, with the possibility of doing some animation and light content creation (Adobe CC).

 

I have a general idea of a system but I want to know what other people think.

 

Budget: $2000 USD

Already have a monitor and peripherals, but will need an OS.

[Devin92]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bhVrNN
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bhVrNN/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z270-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($273.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($169.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card  ($569.00 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($138.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1776.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-03 14:23 EDT-0400

 

Not sure if you need 32Gb of RAM. you can choose 16Gb instead. Went for win10 pro since it has remote access support which may come in handy for a team project. Not going for Ryzen since there's not much parallel workload as you described.

[RAM555789]

I didn't include the OS, I suggest getting it for about $20-$25 from Kinguin (OEM key). So while this does go over budget I wanted this to have a lot of memory for all the rendering you will be doing, and a good GPU to boot.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($289.89 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($59.90 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($233.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($66.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  ($804.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2001.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-03 14:27 EDT-0400

[RAM555789]

I went with the Ryzen since typically more cores will do better with Rendering, the i7-7700k is better for gaming.

[epic_ziver_D]

2 minutes ago, Devin92 said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bhVrNN
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bhVrNN/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z270-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($273.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($169.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card  ($569.00 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($138.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1776.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-03 14:23 EDT-0400

 

Not sure if you need 32Gb of RAM. you can choose 16Gb instead. Went for win10 pro since it has remote access support which may come in handy for a team project. Not going for Ryzen since there's not much parallel workload as you described.

 

If going for a i7-7700k you might as well wait a bit for the i7-8700k it has a similar price and you are quite a bit under budget anyways. (And a Z370 Chipset ofc) I won't be a long wait and the 2 extra cores / 4 extra threads will help with rendering.

[Devin92]

6 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

I went with the Ryzen since typically more cores will do better with Rendering, the i7-7700k is better for gaming.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Autodesk-Inventor-173/Hardware-Recommendations

Not sure how accurate is this website, but seems like autodesk inventor is a single core/thread software. so i7 is better suited

 

Also its recommended to go for a workstation GPU, preferably Nvidia as well, so maybe go for a Quadro? It says regular GPU works too but is not fully supported. Maybe OP has more experience in this issue.

[seon123]

Since those tasks like single core performance, the 6800K, 7800X and 8700K seem like the best options. Keep in mind most reviews of Ryzen for those tasks are from around March, and they are usually run at 2400-2667 MHz RAM. Add ~5% to Ryzen's numbers, if you compare. 

This one has the 6800K, 6 core Broadwell-E. Plenty of budget left over, so there's room to change anything.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.89 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($59.90 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Motherboard: MSI - X99A SLI ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($304.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($147.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($539.88 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1656.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-03 14:46 EDT-0400

The elephant that has not yet arrived in the room is 8700K, so wait for reviews of that. 

[Rodee543]

1 hour ago, Devin92 said:

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Autodesk-Inventor-173/Hardware-Recommendations

Not sure how accurate is this website, but seems like autodesk inventor is a single core/thread software. so i7 is better suited

 

Also its recommended to go for a workstation GPU, preferably Nvidia as well, so maybe go for a Quadro? It says regular GPU works too but is not fully supported. Maybe OP has more experience in this issue.

Yeah, I was looking into this and it seems like inventor doesn’t scale well to multiple cores.

 

Additionally I was thinking a Quadro P4000, would hate to get it though only to have Nvidia refresh the Quadros shortly after.

[Sanctorum]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor  ($344.08 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270F ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($137.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($147.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($66.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Mini Video Card  ($712.89 @ B&H) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1762.47

 

Get an 8700k and Z370 mobo. You can get an Eclipse P300 for $30 less than the P400S or a Fractal Meshify C for $10 more. Maybe get a Quadro P400 instead of the 1080Ti but the 1080Ti has more/faster VRAM, higher clock speeds, and more CUDA cores for $80 less.

[epic_ziver_D]

I am not really experienced with these type of builds I choose parts based on what I found online or what I think is best.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rq4XD8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rq4XD8/by_merchant/

CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($74.95 @ Amazon) | I didn't want to get a water CPU cooler because I wasn't sure if you want to mess with it also feel free to upgrade to an NH-D15.
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z270-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Amazon) | Replace with a Z370 motherboard when they are released
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($299.39 @ OutletPC) | You can get 16 GB instead or RAM from a different company or with RGB for similar prices or 16gb sticks.
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($233.88 @ OutletPC) | You can swap it with a different NVMe SSD or SATA SSD if you want.
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($66.88 @ OutletPC) | I think 2 TB will be enough but if you need more a 3TB isn't that much more expensive.
Video Card: PNY - Quadro P4000 8GB Video Card  ($790.00 @ Amazon) | For your workload, I believe a Quadro will be much better than a Geforce.
Case: NZXT - H440 (Glossy White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Newegg) | I love the H440, I choose this color for no reason, PLEASE choose a color you like more, if you want you could get an S340 instead but I rather the H440 (or the N450 but I think for this build an H440 would be better)
Power Supply: Corsair - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Amazon) | You probably can get a 550W PSU or an RMx (or a different company/series, but I personally rather RMx/RMi but go for whatever you would like).
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Other: (CPU) i7-8700k | PCPartPicker don't have i7-8700k yet D: I really think you should wait for it as it can help with rendering and prices are supposedly similar.
Total: $1909.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-03 15:46 EDT-0400

 

You can swap many stuff in this build but I think this is a good build for your workload if anyone has any recommendations feel free to write them down.

[Sanctorum]

8 minutes ago, epic_ziver_D said:

I am not really experienced with these type of builds I choose parts based on what I found online or what I think is best.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rq4XD8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rq4XD8/by_merchant/

CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($74.95 @ Amazon) | I didn't want to get a water CPU cooler because I wasn't sure if you want to mess with it also feel free to upgrade to an NH-D15.
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z270-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Amazon) | Replace with a Z370 motherboard when they are released
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($299.39 @ OutletPC) | You can get 16 GB instead or RAM from a different company or with RGB for similar prices or 16gb sticks.
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($233.88 @ OutletPC) | You can swap it with a different NVMe SSD or SATA SSD if you want.
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($66.88 @ OutletPC) | I think 2 TB will be enough but if you need more a 3TB isn't that much more expensive.
Video Card: PNY - Quadro P4000 8GB Video Card  ($790.00 @ Amazon) | For your workload, I believe a Quadro will be much better than a Geforce.
Case: NZXT - H440 (Glossy White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Newegg) | I love the H440, I choose this color for no reason, PLEASE choose a color you like more, if you want you could get an S340 instead but I rather the H440 (or the N450 but I think for this build an H440 would be better)
Power Supply: Corsair - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Amazon) | You probably can get a 550W PSU or an RMx (or a different company/series, but I personally rather RMx/RMi but go for whatever you would like).
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Other: (CPU) i7-8700k | PCPartPicker don't have i7-8700k yet D: I really think you should wait for it as it can help with rendering and prices are supposedly similar.
Total: $1909.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-03 15:46 EDT-0400

 

You can swap many stuff in this build but I think this is a good build for your workload if anyone has any recommendations feel free to write them down.

That's $300 over budget with the CPU price. RAM is overpriced. NVMe SSD likely won't benefit OP much. P4000 has less CUDA cores, less/slower VRAM, and lower clock speed. H440 is a bad choice for a case these days, there are better/nice options for a similar or lower price.

[epic_ziver_D]

11 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

That's $300 over budget with the CPU price. RAM is overpriced. NVMe SSD likely won't benefit OP much. P4000 has less CUDA cores, less/slower VRAM, and lower clock speed. H440 is a bad choice for a case these days, there are better/nice options for a similar or lower price.

I just realized I derped on the CPU and the NVMe thing is just a habit my bad I still think a low capacity SSD for windows will be useful. RAM isn't really overpriced for 32 gigs as I said you can easily downscale, and as has been mentioned non-Quadros aren't really officially supported. And the case is really dependant I rather it but as I said you can easily swap it for almost anything else.

[Sanctorum]

2 minutes ago, epic_ziver_D said:

I still think a low capacity SSD for windows will be useful. 

Not even low capacity, just no need for NVMe.

 

3 minutes ago, epic_ziver_D said:

RAM isn't really overpriced for 32 gigs as I said you can easily downscale

It is. You can get 32GB RAM for $250-260 pretty easily.

 

4 minutes ago, epic_ziver_D said:

and as has been mentioned non-Quadros aren't really officially supported. 

In Autodesk, I have no idea but for everything else, 1080Ti would be better. 

[Devin92]

18 hours ago, Rodee543 said:

Yeah, I was looking into this and it seems like inventor doesn’t scale well to multiple cores.

 

Additionally I was thinking a Quadro P4000, would hate to get it though only to have Nvidia refresh the Quadros shortly after.

well, if you want to wait for further news about the Quadro line, you can. My guess it shouldnt be that early. volta is scheduled next year, the new quadro should come out later than the consumer ones. so maybe early to mid 2018.

 

[brob]

No need for an unlocked cpu. The i7-8700 should be just fine. CPU and motherboard prices are guesstimates.

 

No point waiting very long for new tech. There is always something faster and better just down the road. If a P4000 will do the job today, it will continue to do the job for some time.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel i7-8700 CPU ($310.00)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus Prime Z370-A ($175.00)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($367.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($327.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PNY - Quadro P4000 8GB Video Card  ($790.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($46.99 @ Amazon) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($102.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $2230.84
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-04 13:23 EDT-0400

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