Confused about Ryzen 1700 Voltage and Speed (Update with aida64 stress test)

[just_dave]

3 minutes ago, Sekishira said:

I remember someone in the new build section telling me to buy the b350 from asus and telling me there is no difference at all, and I believed him but still bought this one just because i liked it and im stubborn to change _-_

Wow.

Wasnt he called Sanctorum?

[Streetguru]

2 hours ago, dave_k said:

B350 is mostly garbage, sadly i found out too late.

People dont remember AM3+ situation, it is the same here, but the VRM wont fail on the boot but after a year or two.

With lower power requirements comes lower quality VRM.

Thats the main issue.

There is no B350 mobo capable of delivering decent R7 overclocks while mantaining low temps (under 75°C).

My board has been working fine for months. Here's the full breakdown.

AM3+ had like 1 or 2 good 970 boards for FX 8 cores, one from ASrock was fairly recent and had USB 3.1. full VRM heatsink and it handled 1.4V OCs.

[just_dave]

5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

My board has been working fine for months. Here's the full breakdown.

AM3+ had like 1 or 2 good 970 boards for FX 8 cores, one from ASrock was fairly recent and had USB 3.1. full VRM heatsink and it handled 1.4V OCs.

I have seen the breakdown and done my own calculations/checks of spec sheets.

The mobo significantly lacks voltage control and the lowside is garbage with high Rds(on), thats why it loses the most there.

[Sekishira]

Somehow P-state isnt working. I follow the p-state guide on the forum changing only the frequency in p0 state and adding an offset to my voltage.

But the voltage isnt going up when i boot into windows

and the frequency is locked at 33% somewhere around 1.5 ghz or so.

 

[Sekishira]

Right now im at 3.9 without changing the default voltage and pstate works.

[just_dave]

15 minutes ago, Sekishira said:

Right now im at 3.9 without changing the default voltage and pstate works.

PState is not worth it

[Sekishira]

43 minutes ago, dave_k said:

PState is not worth it

Doesn't it save electricity ? 

[just_dave]

2 minutes ago, Sekishira said:

Doesn't it save electricity ? 

Ryzen is so efficient that it doesnt even matter

[Sekishira]

On 2017/9/30 at 12:05 PM, dave_k said:

Ryzen is so efficient that it doesnt even matter

did some research and decided to stay on pstate with default voltage at 3.9 :3 just to save that few watt cause there is no need for me to push 4.1 at the moment

but you are right, the difference is quite minimal 

[Sekishira]

Small update:

Tried 4.2ghz @ 1.4v (with lcc4.. for some reason the vdroop is is huge I had to turn to lcc4 to make it stay at 1.395)

Failed after some minutes of aida...

Decided not to go further. but I guess in general we can conclude no matter how good a silicon win is, 4.2 is still just not gonna happen easily. Considering for that 0.1ghz I bumped almost 0.1v and it is still not stable. Maybe it might be stable at 1.45 but imma not risk it :3 

[johndms]

3 hours ago, Sekishira said:

Small update:

Tried 4.2ghz @ 1.4v (with lcc4.. for some reason the vdroop is is huge I had to turn to lcc4 to make it stay at 1.395)

Failed after some minutes of aida...

Decided not to go further. but I guess in general we can conclude no matter how good a silicon win is, 4.2 is still just not gonna happen easily. Considering for that 0.1ghz I bumped almost 0.1v and it is still not stable. Maybe it might be stable at 1.45 but imma not risk it :3 

It was worth a shot. With a better board, I'd like to see if I could break 4GHz on my Ryzen 5 1600, but it's not happening without LLC. Be sure lower that LLC if it's not needed. I'm not sure what options you're given when selecting LLC, but the highest two choices are dangerous. Extreme LLC is a big, fat no-no.

[Emberstone]

Hell if your voltage is reasonable at 4.1 GHz I'd just stick with that. No reason to run lower if you have a sustainable OC.

[Sekishira]

On 2017/10/2 at 11:34 PM, Emberstone said:

Hell if your voltage is reasonable at 4.1 GHz I'd just stick with that. No reason to run lower if you have a sustainable OC.

:3 it's a lot more quieter!