Posted September 27, 2017 So i bought this new pc, here are the specs: Ram: DDR4 8G 2400Mhz HynixGPU: Palit GeForce GTX 1070 Dual 8GBCPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600OS : Windows 10 64 bit I noticed i had low FPS from the moment i started playing on the PC (Around 150-250 in CS:GO, 45-65 on GTA V, 45-70 on HITMAN etc). Also started to get a lot of FPS drops and a lot of stutters in GTA V and Hitman and even CSGO and rocket league. I benchmarked my PC and gotten these results: Novabench - https://novabench.com/view/1333668Userbenchmark - http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/5105509Unigine heaven - https://gyazo.com/73340b9363dd0fd77bf0eab7c521c614 GPU Drivers are updated, any way to fix this issue? By the way, i've noticed in all the benchmarks it says my GPU only has 4GB, does that mean something? maybe that's the problem? says 4gb also in other programs (CAM and Speecy) Big thanks to anyone trying to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 Settings in those games? Anti-Aliasing can kill your FPS, also grass quality impacts FPS a lot too. Try turning AA off and Grass Quality (GTA 5) to medium and see if it improves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 Author 2 minutes ago, FTL said: Settings in those games? Anti-Aliasing can kill your FPS, also grass quality impacts FPS a lot too. Try turning AA off and Grass Quality (GTA 5) to medium and see if it improves. on GTA V FXAA and MSAA are both disabled, grass quality is on medium they helped my FPS a bit but i still get massive drops that make the game unplayable sometimes, and lots of drops to 40ish FPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 Not all apps show VRAM properly. My 1070 is also reported to have 4GB while more accurate ones like GPU-Z does report 8GB. Why.... why didnt people stop you from buying a A320 mobo.... CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 Author 2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said: Not all apps show VRAM properly. My 1070 is also reported to have 4GB while more accurate ones like GPU-Z does report 8GB. Why.... why didnt people stop you from buying a A320 mobo.... Still find it kinda odd that like 4 programs all showed that i have 4GB, i'll check on GPU-Z and update What's wrong with the motherboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, Misinki said: Still find it kinda odd that like 4 programs all showed that i have 4GB, i'll check on GPU-Z and update What's wrong with the motherboard? No overclocking. Ion (Main Build) Overall Setup i5 6500 3.2 GHz -Blue snowball (White) thanks goodwill MSI Mortar Arctic -Logitech K120 Asus 1060 6GB Dual -Logitech Daedalus Prime G302 PNY CS1311 120 GB -Mousepad I made in 1st grade with my name on it WD Caviar Blue 1 TB Crucial Ballistix Sport LT White 16GB (8x2GB) 2400 NZXT S340 White Corsair CXM 450W Lenovo H320 (Old Pre-built PC) Possible upgrade for H320 i5 650 3.2 GHz (heh) Xeon X3470 Motherboard unknown Same Motherboard iGPU GT 1030 (MSI Low Profile Half Height) Crucial 240GB SSD Crucial 240GB SSD 6GB DDR3 (4+2GB) 8-10GB DDR3 (4+2+2GB/4+4+2GB) Lenovo H320 case Lenovo H320 case Unknown PSU (210W?) Same PSU (210W?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 Have you set your power setting to Ryzen balanced in WIndows? Watching Intel have competition is like watching a headless chicken trying to get out of a mine field CPU: Intel I7 4790K@4.6 with NZXT X31 AIO; MOTHERBOARD: ASUS Z97 Maximus VII Ranger; RAM: 8 GB Kingston HyperX 1600 DDR3; GFX: ASUS R9 290 4GB; CASE: Lian Li v700wx; STORAGE: Corsair Force 3 120GB SSD; Samsung 850 500GB SSD; Various old Seagates; PSU: Corsair RM650; MONITOR: 2x 20" Dell IPS; KEYBOARD/MOUSE: Logitech K810/ MX Master; OS: Windows 10 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 Author 5 minutes ago, QuantumBit said: No overclocking. Kind of a noob in computers, didn't plan on overclocking 4 minutes ago, Notional said: Have you set your power setting to Ryzen balanced in WIndows? Yes, didn't really make any difference, if anything it only made my games stutter more often so i put it on high performance back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, Misinki said: Kind of a noob in computers, didn't plan on overclocking Yes, didn't really make any difference, if anything it only made my games stutter more often so i put it on high performance back Ok. I think there are 2 factors working against you: 1. You're not overclocking, which means it only runs up to 3.6ghz. This especially has an influence on games that use few cores like CS:GO. 2. Your RAM speed is not very high. Ryzen is very RAM speed sensitive, in that it gains a lot with higher RAM clock speeds. Have you tried any monitoring software to see if your GPU runs at 100% when playing the games, or much lower? Watching Intel have competition is like watching a headless chicken trying to get out of a mine field CPU: Intel I7 4790K@4.6 with NZXT X31 AIO; MOTHERBOARD: ASUS Z97 Maximus VII Ranger; RAM: 8 GB Kingston HyperX 1600 DDR3; GFX: ASUS R9 290 4GB; CASE: Lian Li v700wx; STORAGE: Corsair Force 3 120GB SSD; Samsung 850 500GB SSD; Various old Seagates; PSU: Corsair RM650; MONITOR: 2x 20" Dell IPS; KEYBOARD/MOUSE: Logitech K810/ MX Master; OS: Windows 10 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Misinki said: Kind of a noob in computers, didn't plan on overclocking Yes, didn't really make any difference, if anything it only made my games stutter more often so i put it on high performance back 2 minutes ago, Misinki said: Kind of a noob in computers, didn't plan on overclocking Yes, didn't really make any difference, if anything it only made my games stutter more often so i put it on high performance back Try turning your PC off and on again (i'm dead serious, it helps with some problems). And also deinstall the drivers with DDU and reinstall them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 27 minutes ago, Misinki said: So i bought this new pc, here are the specs: Ram: DDR4 8G 2400Mhz HynixGPU: Palit GeForce GTX 1070 Dual 8GBCPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600OS : Windows 10 64 bit I noticed i had low FPS from the moment i started playing on the PC (Around 150-250 in CS:GO, 45-65 on GTA V, 45-70 on HITMAN etc). Also started to get a lot of FPS drops and a lot of stutters in GTA V and Hitman and even CSGO and rocket league. I benchmarked my PC and gotten these results: Novabench - https://novabench.com/view/1333668Userbenchmark - http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/5105509Unigine heaven - https://gyazo.com/73340b9363dd0fd77bf0eab7c521c614 GPU Drivers are updated, any way to fix this issue? By the way, i've noticed in all the benchmarks it says my GPU only has 4GB, does that mean something? maybe that's the problem? says 4gb also in other programs (CAM and Speecy) Big thanks to anyone trying to help can you run the games for us and see your cpu and gpu usage? download msi afterburner or hwmonitor and look at the usage. "Sulit" (adj.) something that is worth it i7 8700K 4.8Ghz delidded / Corsair H100i V2 / Asus Strix Z370-F / G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB 3200 / EVGA GTX 1080Ti FTW3 / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q Samsung 850 EVO 500GB & 250GB - Crucial MX300 M.2 525GB / Fractal Design Define S / Corsair K70 MX Reds / Logitech G502 / Beyerdynamic DT770 250Ohm SMSL SD793II AMP/DAC - Schiit Magni 3 / PCPP Old Rig i5 2500k 4.5Ghz | Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3P | Zotac GTX 980 AMP! Extreme | Crucial Ballistix Tactical 16GB 1866MHz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 what is the Gpu usage? it could also be temperature. you could also check cpu usage. if Windows starts updating or something that could have a big impact. She/Her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 Author 1 hour ago, FTL said: Try turning your PC off and on again (i'm dead serious, it helps with some problems). And also deinstall the drivers with DDU and reinstall them again. Restarted my PC multiple times (over 15) in like 1 week of using it I reinstalled with DDU and it helped a bit with the FPS, thanks. 1 hour ago, Notional said: Ok. I think there are 2 factors working against you: 1. You're not overclocking, which means it only runs up to 3.6ghz. This especially has an influence on games that use few cores like CS:GO. 2. Your RAM speed is not very high. Ryzen is very RAM speed sensitive, in that it gains a lot with higher RAM clock speeds. Have you tried any monitoring software to see if your GPU runs at 100% when playing the games, or much lower? 1 hour ago, firelighter487 said: what is the Gpu usage? it could also be temperature. you could also check cpu usage. if Windows starts updating or something that could have a big impact. 1 hour ago, SeanAngelo said: can you run the games for us and see your cpu and gpu usage? download msi afterburner or hwmonitor and look at the usage. got these results using CAM GPU was 25-45% CPU was 40-55% sometimes the GPU went down to 0% (in explosions or stutters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Misinki said: Kind of a noob in computers, didn't plan on overclocking The problem is that Ryzen NEEDS to be overclocked both CPU and RAM in order to overcome its Infinity Fabric limitations, if you don't want and won't overclock you should have got an i7 7700 on a B250 chipset. Any ways... DDU in safe mode and reinstall drivers fresh new. Personal Desktop": CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot: SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro. Luna, the temporary Desktop: CPU: AMD R9 7950XT |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 Author 8 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said: The problem is that Ryzen NEEDS to be overclocked both CPU and RAM in order to overcome its Infinity Fabric limitations, if you don't want and won't overclock you should have got an i7 7700 on a B250 chipset. Any ways... DDU in safe mode and reinstall drivers fresh new. i just reinstalled the drivers with DDU but wasn't on safe mode, does it really matter to do it trough safe mode again or not really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, Misinki said: i just reinstalled the drivers with DDU but wasn't on safe mode, does it really matter to do it trough safe mode again or not really? I'd particularly only use DDU in safe mode otherwise left overs might still cause issues. Don't expect miracles though as plenty already stated you have done everything in your power to cripple Ryzen's performance, you should really have gone locked i7 your performance would be miles better without any need for overclockings... Personal Desktop": CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot: SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro. Luna, the temporary Desktop: CPU: AMD R9 7950XT |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 27, 2017 Are you using the creator update of Windows 10? Make sure game mode is disabled. It's known to cause stuttering and performance issues. Gaming Rig Spoiler CPU: Intel i7-6850k @ 4.2GHz GPU: 2x FE GTX 1080Ti Memory: 16GB PNY Anarchy DDR4 3200MHz Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme 4 Encoding Rig Spoiler CPU: Ryzen 7 1700 @ 3.7GHz GPU: GTX 1050 Memory: 8GB Curcial Ballistix DDR4 2133MHz Motherboard: Gigabyte AB350M-DS3H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 28, 2017 Author 6 hours ago, Frankenburger said: Are you using the creator update of Windows 10? Make sure game mode is disabled. It's known to cause stuttering and performance issues. Thanks, disabled it. Still getting drops and stutters to the point it's unplayable on GTAV and rocket league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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