Ram choice for R7 1700 / X

[FIXXX]

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0143UM4TC/

vs

G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR43200MHz

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MTDEYHU/

 

The timings appear to be the same, same potential frequency.

Is there any significant difference there that would account the the price difference?

 

Planning to use in an R7 1700 or X.

 

Wouldn't mind getting a kit of 3000 Mhz, but there's a higher chance of being unable to get 2933 with that one. As far as I've understood - that's the one to reach. That's apparently where the issue with which chips you have, Micron, Hynix or Samsung. I don't want to overclock the memory manually, just apply XMP and leave it at that. Will have ASUS STRIX B350-F Gaming (https://www.computeruniverse.net/products/90696252/asus-strix-b350-f-gaming.asp).

Not a significant gamer, will use it for multitasking with flash applications. Want to have a computer I can be satisfied with for at least 3 years or whatever.

[Changis]

1 minute ago, FIXXX said:

Is there any significant difference there that would account the the price difference?

 

1 minute ago, FIXXX said:

 

G.SKILL TridentZ ^RGB Series

 

[FIXXX]

1 minute ago, Changis said:

 

 

Euh, RGB. Didn't notice.

So .. this would then be the alternative? G.Skill 16GB (Dual Channel Kit) 3200MHz DDR4 Trident Z Desktop Memory (F4-3200C16D-16GTZB)

 https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-Channel-3200MHz-Trident-F4-3200C16D-16GTZB/dp/B015FY3BJ2/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506096478&sr=1-5&keywords=G.SKILL+TridentZ+16+GB+DDR4

[just_dave]

G.Skill just released Ryzen optimized B-Die memory. 

Also, B350-F with 1700X is not the greatest idea probably.

[FIXXX]

3 minutes ago, dave_k said:

G.Skill just released Ryzen optimized B-Die memory. 

Also, B350-F with 1700X is not the greatest idea probably.

What about ASUS PRIME X370-A ? Just 10 euro more than the currently selector board.

[just_dave]

1 minute ago, FIXXX said:

What about ASUS PRIME X370-A ? Just 10 euro more than the currently selector board.

Ha. No. You are not getting anything better.

For 1700X, i would recommend Prime X370 Pro.

1700X on B350-F would work, but it would be better to get some airflow over the VRM heatsink

[FIXXX]

Just now, dave_k said:

Ha. No. You are not getting anything better.

For 1700X, i would recommend Prime X370 Pro.

1700X on B350-F would work, but it would be better to get some airflow over the VRM heatsink

Already planning to account for the VRM, a single 120mm on low rotations should suffice.

The  Prime X370 Pro is more expensive though - the VRMs on that one is probably rated for higher temps then/ or is more of them to stabilize power output better?

[just_dave]

2 minutes ago, FIXXX said:

Already planning to account for the VRM, a single 120mm on low rotations should suffice.

The  Prime X370 Pro is more expensive though - the VRMs on that one is probably rated for higher temps then/ or is more of them to stabilize power output better?

The VRMs on Prime X370 Pro are really high end stuff.

They are the same parts as on ASRock Taichi or Asus Crosshair. There is less of them as on those two but thanks to their good efficiency curve, the heat output is same all across these mobos.

[FIXXX]

4 minutes ago, dave_k said:

The VRMs on Prime X370 Pro are really high end stuff.

They are the same parts as on ASRock Taichi or Asus Crosshair. There is less of them as on those two but thanks to their good efficiency curve, the heat output is same all across these mobos.

Mom always said to not be too frugal, so the extra 30 euro is something i can eat  

[just_dave]

6 minutes ago, FIXXX said:

Mom always said to not be too frugal, so the extra 30 euro is something i can eat  

If you really need to save the buck, the B350-F will work.

Just dont push so much

 

[FIXXX]

10 minutes ago, dave_k said:

If you really need to save the buck, the B350-F will work.

Just dont push so much

 

I don't expect to get more than reaching the 2933 Mhz point - so as not to bottleneck the CPU.

 

I wonder, if I get the Prime X370 Pro - perhaps ill be able to stick with the r7 1700 and have much less fear of overclocking - this would reduce to zero the price difference among them. But still give more value - as the motherboard is in most respects much more important than the CPU.

[just_dave]

5 minutes ago, FIXXX said:

I don't expect to get more than reaching the 2933 Mhz point - so as not to bottleneck the CPU.

 

I wonder, if I get the Prime X370 Pro - perhaps ill be able to stick with the r7 1700 and have much less fear of overclocking - this would reduce to zero the price difference among them. But still give more value - as the motherboard is in most respects much more important than the CPU.

Prime would give you careless overclocking.

But if you need the few bucks, B350-F would hold up just fine. There is a guy on forums with B350-F and 1700, i'll message him what VRM temps he gets and eventually tell you

[FIXXX]

7 minutes ago, dave_k said:

There is a guy on forums with B350-F and 1700, i'll message him what VRM temps he gets and eventually tell you

Awesome! 

[just_dave]

13 hours ago, FIXXX said:

Awesome! 

So, i ve got the data.

Ryzen 7 overclocking on B350-F Strix is limited to maximally 3.8GHz at 1.35V (or lower).

This keeps the VRM sensor at 80°C and that is still OK

[FIXXX]

8 minutes ago, dave_k said:

So, i ve got the data.

Ryzen 7 overclocking on B350-F Strix is limited to maximally 3.8GHz at 1.35V (or lower).

This keeps the VRM sensor at 80°C and that is still OK

Thank you!

Monitoring VRM temps is not done through any built'in ways - but through an external probe or two I presume.

There's a chance I can get an 1800x for ~$360 so that might chance things up a bit.

[just_dave]

1 minute ago, FIXXX said:

Thank you!

Monitoring VRM temps is not done through any built'in ways - but through an external probe or two I presume.

The Strix has a mosfet temp sensor somewhere on the PCB

[FIXXX]

Just now, dave_k said:

The Strix has a mosfet temp sensor somewhere on the PCB

Neat!