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Hi there, I'm wondering what's better for gaming? Ryzen 5 1600 or the I5 7500? Please explain why as well.

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4 minutes ago, MasterLow said:

Hi there, I'm wondering what's better for gaming? Ryzen 5 1600 or the I5 7500? Please explain why as well.

Ryzen.

 

Has more cores, has MUCH more threads = extremely better multitasking.

Has very similiar IPC/clock, so stock performances, but can also be freely overclocked (and up to 3,8Ghz it's basically 100% guaranteed out of the box) at which it will be faster than the 7500.

It is newer, and the AM4 platform will be upgradable for 4 years. While 1151 is already a dead end.

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Ryzen 5 1600 is better option, just don't pair it with a msi board.

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Will have similar averages but significantly better minimums and performance in anything really multi threaded. Will also be upgrade able, dont have much of an option with Kabylake (Perhaps a 7700 but thats is). 

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The ryzen 5 1600 is better than the i5 7500, because since the R5 is an unlocked processor, you have the option to overclock and also ram speeds are better optimised on ryzen processors. Going with the AM4 platform, you have more upgradability options when it comes to the processor. When it come to multitasking and content creation such as video editing and rendering, the advantage comes with the R5 having more cores which will be utilized more and also more threads which definitely helps in terms of multi threaded and multi core performance. And generally Ryzen processors are much cheaper as well.

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There's basically zero reason to buy a locked i5 unless you intend to use the integrated graphics.

 

Skylake and Kabylake have the advantage of being able to go well above 4GHz, but only on the unlocked chips.  Since the IPC is actually pretty close between Ryzen and Skylake/Kabylake, obviously moar clockspeed = moar single-thread performance.  When we're talking about locked chips, especially the ones that aren't running over 4GHz, you won't notice much/any difference in single-thread, while having 12 threads to play with on a 1600/1600X.

 

For single-theaded workloads, my 1600X boosts to 4.1GHz and stays there, and runs at 3.7 on all threads, which makes it faster than an i5-7500 ALL THE TIME.

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My $0.02:

 

The i5-7500 will give you slightly better framerates in most (but certainly not all) games due to it's better IPC, BUT,

 

I 100% recommend you go with the R5 because: 1. It has much better multithreading (both hyper-threading and cores); 2. It is overclock-able unlike the i5-7500 so you can easily increase performance; 3. It will serve you better in the future as games become more and more multi-threaded; 4. The tiny difference in performance between the two does not make up for the massive advantages of the R5; 5. With the new Intel CPUs with much better performance coming out very soon, buying an Intel right now is a bad idea.

 

TL:DR-  Without a doubt, get the R5-1600.

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2 hours ago, pyrojoe34 said:

The i5-7500 will give you slightly better framerates in most (but certainly not all) games due to it's better IPC, BUT,

 

You can have 5% better IPC and still be slower than a cpu that's clocked more than 5% higher.

 

The IPC argument doesn't do anything for locked intel SKU's that don't boost over 4GHz.

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