AMD VS INTEL GAMING

[aeon187]

Im buying a new computer 2000~ $

 

Should I wait and go Cofee lake Or i7 7700k

Or

SHould I go AMD 1700

 

PLease advice and tell me when you chosen an option over a certain one, feel free to add anything i might be missing <3

[AdamBGames]

Just now, aeon187 said:

Im buying a new computer 2000~ $

 

Should I wait and go Cofee lake Or i7 7700k

Or

SHould I go AMD 1700

 

PLease advice and tell me when you chosen an option over a certain one, feel free to add anything i might be missing <3

it depends, for price to overall performance the 1700 wins, but in games the 7700k does edge out in a lot of games, if you are doing any editing or other things like streaming, the 1700 is better but just for gaming, the 7700k is better

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, aeon187 said:

i7 7700k

Dead platform 

 

2 minutes ago, aeon187 said:

SHould I go AMD 1700

Brand new platform.

 

Go AMD

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, aeon187 said:

Im buying a new computer 2000~ $

 

Should I wait and go Cofee lake Or i7 7700k

Or

SHould I go AMD 1700

 

PLease advice and tell me when you chosen an option over a certain one, feel free to add anything i might be missing <3

What monitor are you going to be using ?

 

You doing anything else apart from gaming such as Video Editing/Rendering or Twitch streaming ?

[aeon187]

@DrMacintosh Isn't the new cofee lake are getting release on lga 1151? I feel there both overkill.. how do you consider it has a dead platform ?

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, aeon187 said:

how do you consider it has a dead platform ?

No way to upgrade form a 7700K without replacing the motherboard as well. 

 

Coffee lake will not use LGA 1151

[aeon187]

@lee32uk Ill start with my VG248QE 

 

Will eventually switch for a bigger one.

[Bananasplit_00]

if you feel like you can wait, Coffee Lake should be the best choice. it will offer basically a 7700K with an aditional two core slapped on it. the 7700K is already the best performing CPU for games so the extra cores will just make it better. priceing might be iffy but at a 2K budget you will definatly be able to afford it

[aeon187]

@DrMacintosh That's a really good point, Witch AMD chip would you recommand ? 1700 or 1800X ?

[Bananasplit_00]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

No way to upgrade form a 7700K without replacing the motherboard as well. 

 

Coffee lake will not use LGA 1151

yes it will, it will just use a diffrent pin out and need a new chipset unless there has been an anouncement claiming otherwise

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, aeon187 said:

@DrMacintosh Isn't the new cofee lake are getting release on lga 1151? I feel there both overkill.. how do you consider it has a dead platform ?

It isn't compatible with current 200 series chipsets. You will need a Z370 board for Coffee Lake.

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Bananasplit_00 said:

it will just use a diffrent pin out and need a new chipset unless there has been an anouncement claiming otherwise

Which effectively means replacement motherboards......aka 

 

"f*ck you" -Intel

[aeon187]

@lee32uk Aren't they gonna be compatible with a Bios update tought?

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, aeon187 said:

@lee32uk Aren't they gonna be compatible with a Bios update tought?

No

[Guest]

Just now, aeon187 said:

@lee32uk Aren't they gonna be compatible with a Bios update tought?

Nope. The actual socket has a different pin configuration. It will be LGA 1151 V2 AFAIK.

[DrMacintosh]

6 minutes ago, aeon187 said:

1700 or 1800X ?

I would go 1700 

 

Save money and get the same performance in games. 

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, aeon187 said:

@DrMacintosh That's a really good point, Witch AMD chip would you recommand ? 1700 or 1800X ?

If you are purely gaming the R5 1600 would suffice. If you plan on doing any content creation or twitch streaming etc then go with the R7 1700.

[Cyracus]

as others have said I don't recommend a 7700k because there's no upgrade path from there because intel are being dickheads. Amd has committed to staying with am4 until sometime in 2020 at least, coffee lake may be a single gen on 1151v2 or whatever they call it but should carry the same ipc, maybe slightly improved over kaby lake. Personally if I was building right now I'd get ryzen

[CostcoSamples]

Get AMD because Intel are losers.  Seriously though, it depends what monitor you want to use.  For 60hz, there is no benefit for Intel.  For 144hz, 7700k does do a little better.

 

Still, I'd go 1700x personally.

[SquintyG33Rs]

32 minutes ago, aeon187 said:

@DrMacintosh Isn't the new cofee lake are getting release on lga 1151? I feel there both overkill.. how do you consider it has a dead platform ?

it's not on same motherboards therefor kaby lake is a dead platform....

[aeon187]

1700 or 1700x??? @SquintyG33Rs @DrMacintosh @lee32uk

[SquintyG33Rs]

Just now, aeon187 said:

1700 or 1700x??? @SquintyG33Rs @DrMacintosh @lee32uk

1700 it will overclock the same and it's identical apart from base clock speed

[Zyndo]

58 minutes ago, aeon187 said:

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If you're after high refresh rate 1080p gaming (since you have a 144hz 1080p monitor already that seems reasonable to assume) you should not get Ryzen. It simply cannot keep up to current intel offerings in this area (only really applies when you have enough money for something like a 1080ti otherwise you GPU usually bottleneck) in most games.

 

for your price range and desires you could afford something along these lines: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sNYfWX

You can feel free to change that up as you wish to better fit your style, needs, or budget; that was just thrown together to give you an idea of what you're looking at.

 

As far as if you should wait for Coffee lake or not.... from my understanding its pretty damn close to launching here in the near future.... like next month or two tops (although its possible i've been misinformed as i'm not really on top of things in the "soon to come" tech department). For everyone saying that coffee isn't going to be any good because its just going to be the same IPC..... I'll gladly take a better version of Kaby with more cores/threads (potential +frequency boost as well) for the same price as current Kaby. Kind of a no-brainer there.

 

 

 

 

For everyone here saying avoid Kaby because its a dead platform...... that's just silly. You would intentionally buy something that is worse just to allow yourself to spend extra money in the future in order to MAYBE get the same amount of performance that is already available now (possibly even slightly better, but there's no guarantee of that)? That's just silly reasoning. Not to mention that MOST of the time in the CPU world, every CPU release is a dead platform. Its much more common, historically, for each family of CPU to have a unique socket than not... yet people bought it all anyway. I mean all things being equal then sure... planning ahead with socket/platform compatibility would be nice for a cheaper upgrade in the future if for some reason you need it; but things are not equal in this case and such reasoning should only be a supporting argument in CPU choice, rather than THE supporting argument.... not to mention that if 3-4 years from now AMD is still plugging along with am4/B350/X370 then its going to outright be missing certain relevant innovations one may want to buy a new motherboard for anyway.

 

 

 

TLDR So yes, were I you I would wait for Coffee Lake. Volta, the next line of GPU's from Nvidia, will also likely be here sometime early in 2018 so if you're not feeling the pressure to upgrade now then perhaps it WOULD be wise to wait for Coffee/Volta. with your budget you could likely have one of the strongest gaming computer systems on the planet at that point if you were to buy these things immediately upon release.

[DrMacintosh]

23 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

that's just silly.

No its not

 

24 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

So yes, were I you I would wait for Coffee Lake. Volta, the next line of GPU's from Nvidia,

Yeah If I were you I would wait till 2019 for the next offering......Volta will not be out for a LONG time. 

[Zyndo]

42 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Yeah If I were you I would wait till 2019 for the next offering......Volta will not be out for a LONG time. 

You have been misinformed. no chance Nvidia is going to wait that long with how old pascal already is.