ryzen build doubts

[rssr]

these are my parts are they good for gaming

ryzen 3 1200

asus prime a320 k motherboard

8 Gb ddr4 ram

Gtx 1050 ti(4gb)

and is 1050ti better or an RX460 is??

 

[tom_w141]

4 minutes ago, rssr said:

asus prime a320 k motherboard

Get a b350 motherboard, trust me you want to overclock that 1200 its a little beast.

 

4 minutes ago, rssr said:

and is 1050ti better or an RX460 is??

1050Ti

[rssr]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

Get a b350 motherboard, trust me you want to overclock that 1200 its a little beast.

 

1050Ti

thanks and will a 450w power supply be enough for this set up

 

[tom_w141]

Just now, rssr said:

thanks and will a 450w power supply be enough for this set up

 

Yes

[bughtoo]

6 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Get a b350 motherboard, trust me you want to overclock that 1200 its a little beast.

 

1050Ti

dont forget about a nice small(or big which ever is cheaper and fits in ur case) and efficient cooler for ur overclock  

[tom_w141]

Just now, bughtoo said:

dont forget about a nice small and efficient cooler for ur overclock  

Actually the wraith stock coolers aren't your typical trash, you can overclock your 1200/1300X on them to its max at comfortable temperatures

[bughtoo]

2 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Actually the wraith stock coolers aren't your typical trash, you can overclock your 1200/1300X on them to its max at comfortable temperatures

does 1200 come with a good wraith cooler? isnt it the smaller one that isnt as good? I would not doubt the wraith max to cool it, but the stealth? i have my doubts if it will be sufficient when OCed

[RoryDash]

I'd recommend the AIR 240 by Corsair and Noctua's AM4 cooler, these are 10/10 fantastic. Actually just did a Ryzen 1500X build with these parts last weekend for a Client with a GTX 980.

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, bughtoo said:

does 1200 come with a wraith cooler? isnt it the smaller one that isnt as good? I would not doubt the wraith max to cool it, but the stealth? i have my doubts it will be sufficient

 

Just now, RoryDash said:

I'd recommend the AIR 240 by Corsair and Noctua's AM4 cooler, these are 10/10 fantastic. Actually just did a Ryzen 1500X build with these parts last weekend for a Client with a GTX 980.

Nope with a  1200 you are completely fine with the little stealth.

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/1455-ryzen-3/page4.html

 

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When overclocked, the 1200's idle temps were in the low 30s and stressing only the CPU saw temps max out at just 52 degrees while stressing the CPU+FPU+cache saw temps touch on 72 degrees, though 67 degrees was the norm here. I was still using the default fan curve and I would describe the Wraith Stealth as being quiet, which is probably the most shocking part.

 

[Tiwaz]

b350 and overclock then you will have a nice 1080p build

[Damascus]

11 minutes ago, bughtoo said:

does 1200 come with a good wraith cooler? isnt it the smaller one that isnt as good? I would not doubt the wraith max to cool it, but the stealth? i have my doubts if it will be sufficient when OCed

Way lower thermal needs too though, a cooler that is sufficient for a 1700 (65W rating) sure as hell can run a 1200.

[Colexd]

The stock cooler will do just fine

[tom_w141]

6 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Way lower thermal needs too though, a cooler that is sufficient for a 1700 (65W rating) sure as hell can run a 1200.

You are correct about the stock cooler being fine, as I shared evidence for above. However a 1700 comes with a wraith spire and the 1200 comes with a wraith stealth. Difference being the stealth is all aluminium (no copper slug at the base to contact the IHS) and has 50% less heatsink, same fan though (ignoring the fact that the 1700 has an RGB fan, by same I meant performance).

[Haeking]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

You are correct about the stock cooler being fine, as I shared evidence for above. However a 1700 comes with a wraith spire and the 1200 comes with a wraith stealth. Difference being the stealth is all aluminium (no copper slug at the base to contact the IHS) and has 50% less heatsink, same fan though (ignoring the fact that the 1700 has an RGB fan, by same I meant performance).

Have the stock cooler on my 1700, OC it to 4.00ghz on a 1.375 voltage and the temps are still only at 60 even with high load

[tom_w141]

Just now, Haeking said:

Have the stock cooler on my 1700, OC it to 4.00ghz on a 1.375 voltage and the temps are still only at 60 even with high load

1.375V is high for the spire to deal with... I'd be surprised if those temps are genuine. Btw what are you quoting me for? All I said was the spire and stealth are different coolers.

[Haeking]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

1.375V is high for the spire to deal with... I'd be surprised if those temps are genuine. Btw what are you quoting me for? All I said was the spire and stealth are different coolers.

No reason specifically you're correct 100% the stock cooler is actually the first of many from amd not to be garbage

[Damascus]

6 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

You are correct about the stock cooler being fine, as I shared evidence for above. However a 1700 comes with a wraith spire and the 1200 comes with a wraith stealth. Difference being the stealth is all aluminium (no copper slug at the base to contact the IHS) and has 50% less heatsink, same fan though (ignoring the fact that the 1700 has an RGB fan, by same I meant performance).

Quite aware, pointing out that the heatsink that comes with the 1200 is 65w and technically capable of cooling a 1700. 

[tom_w141]

4 minutes ago, Haeking said:

actually the first of many from amd not to be garbage

The 1st from anyone to be honest  the Intel cooler is still shit.

[Haeking]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

The 1st from anyone to be honest  the Intel cooler is still shit.

Intel I dont ever will take the stock cooler game seriously till amd just keeps taking customers with a great cpu and stock cooler combo 

[JakeNTech]

4 minutes ago, Haeking said:

Intel I dont ever will take the stock cooler game seriously till amd just keeps taking customers with a great cpu and stock cooler combo 

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isn't that what the intel coolers are for? 

Before they stopped using copper they where decent.....then they made it cheaper.....

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[Haeking]

Just now, fixitnow said:

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isn't that what the intel coolers are for? 

Before they stopped using copper they where decent.....then they made it cheaper.....

Intel is just getting slapped in the face with a white glove by amd in so many ways, hopefully coffee lake isnt a bust 

[tomle64]

11 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

The 1st from anyone to be honest  the Intel cooler is still shit.

Hey I use my intel cooler on my locked i5 it rig it works great

[LienusLateTips]

6 hours ago, tomle64 said:

Hey I use my intel cooler on my locked i5 it rig it works great

But you can't oc with it

[Sanctorum]

7 hours ago, rssr said:

thanks and will a 450w power supply be enough for this set up

 

Depends on quality.

7 hours ago, tom_w141 said:

Actually the wraith stock coolers aren't your typical trash, you can overclock your 1200/1300X on them to its max at comfortable temperatures

No you can't. Comfortable temperatures wouldn't be right around TJ Maxx.

31 minutes ago, JDE said:

But you can't oc with it

Since when is he going to overclock a locked i5? Also, you're wrong anyway. I've overclocked with the stock Intel cooler before, no problem.

 

OP- GTX 1050 is better than RX 460, so the 1050Ti is definitely better than the 460. Don't bother with an A320 chipset motherboard, they're cheap shit. Even the cheapest B350 board would be a better choice.

[tom_w141]

51 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

No you can't. Comfortable temperatures wouldn't be right around TJ Maxx.

Ryzen tjmax is 95 degrees. Since when is 28 degrees below tjmax on the stock cooler too close? (note he was stressing cpu and fpu 100% so unrealistic for a gaming workload)

 

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