Best cpu for a cheap home server

[Gungpae]

8 minutes ago, BDunkz said:

@Gungpaecan you make up a list though? for my petential nas?

Nvm let me adjust for aud

[BDunkz]

2 minutes ago, Gungpae said:

Nvm let me adjust for aud

do you think the mobo is a good choice? it only has 2 ram slots and only 4 sata ports 2 only 3 gpb/s

[Jarsky]

22 minutes ago, BDunkz said:

yeah but the mobo would have no 10gbp/s or sata expander because the port would be taken for the gpu. and a bronze psu???

So you have a 10Gbit network? or you're going to directly attach another computer with a 10Gbit copper nic?

Theres no HBA in that build, but you can always add one later if you need it.

You don't need Gold, because you arent going to get in that efficiency band unless you have like 15 drives....

 

If you want a really high performance server, you either need to look at second hand components for some stuff, or increase your budget

[BDunkz]

Just now, Jarsky said:

So you have a 10Gbit network? or you're going to directly attach another computer with a 10Gbit copper nic?

Theres no HBA in that build, but you can always add one later if you need it.

You don't need Gold, because you arent going to get in that efficiency band unless you have like 15 drives....

 

If you want a really high performance server, you either need to look at second hand components for some stuff, or increase your budget

i will we wiring it to my pc. HBA? 

[Gungpae]

3 minutes ago, BDunkz said:

do you think the mobo is a good choice? it only has 2 ram slots and only 4 sata ports 2 only 3 gpb/s

Chose one with 4 sata ports 6 gb/s. If you're not planning on expanding your server, 2 ram slots will do just fine for 16 gb, or 32 gb. If you want more sata ports then you will need to buy a expansion slot or a bigger better motherboard. I chose something small for you so that it just sits in a corner.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($29.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Motherboard: ASRock - H110M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($74.00 @ IJK) 
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($88.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Case: Silverstone - TJ08B-E MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($85.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Wired Network Adapter: Asus - XG-C100C PCI-Express x1 100 Mbps/1 Gbps/10 Gbps Network Adapter  ($188.00 @ Umart) 
Total: $632.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[Jarsky]

5 minutes ago, BDunkz said:

i will we wiring it to my pc. HBA? 

You do realise that if you want 10gbit onboard its going to be copper,and you cant do copper to dac/sfp? So you either need a SFP+ card on both ends, or a copper ethernet on both ends...not sure why you need 10gbit direct to your PC though? If you're just wiring it to your PC, then why not just get HDD's and build an array inside your main PC? I suspect you have a decent CPU for running your VM's on your main rig

 

If you need to expand the sata ports, the best way to do it, and the most high performance way, is by using a SAS Host Bus Adapter card. The one I built for you already includes 6 ports. With SAS HBA including expanders you can extend them up to 100's of drives if you really needed too.

[BDunkz]

2 minutes ago, Gungpae said:

Chose one with 4 sata ports 6 gb/s. If you're not planning on expanding your server, 2 ram slots will do just fine for 16 gb, or 32 gb. If you want more sata ports then you will need to buy a expansion slot or a bigger better motherboard. I chose something small for you so that it just sits in a corner.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($29.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Motherboard: ASRock - H110M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($74.00 @ IJK) 
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($88.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Case: Silverstone - TJ08B-E MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($85.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Wired Network Adapter: Asus - XG-C100C PCI-Express x1 100 Mbps/1 Gbps/10 Gbps Network Adapter  ($188.00 @ Umart) 
Total: $632.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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is a pentilum going to be able to host a few vms and a gme server?

[Gungpae]

Just now, BDunkz said:

is a pentilum going to be able to host a few vms and a gme server?

Yes, 1 core for Game Server, 1 Core for a VM (not so productive), 2 Threads for a VM.

[BDunkz]

1 minute ago, Gungpae said:

Yes, 1 core for Game Server, 1 Core for a VM (not so productive), 2 Threads for a VM.

nice, ok

[BDunkz]

6 minutes ago, Jarsky said:

With SAS HBA including expanders you can extend them up to 100's of drives if you really needed too.

could you recomend a budget one?

[Jarsky]

thats a very low resource game server.

as a comparison, both my Rust & MC servers take 4 cores each to run efficiently

[Jarsky]

1 minute ago, BDunkz said:

could you recomend a budget one?

 

there is no 'budget one' , im saying in the future that would be what you would want to do. Some of the best are the Supermicro AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 and the LSI 9211-8i

[BDunkz]

Just now, Jarsky said:

thats a very low resource game server.

as a comparison, both my Rust & MC servers take 4 cores each to run efficiently

could you recomend a suficent cpu to run a game server a semi intensive vm and do backups? then i can work around that to chose the rest of the parts. and why not an atx mobo?

[BDunkz]

1 minute ago, Jarsky said:

 

there is no 'budget one' , im saying in the future that would be what you would want to do. Some of the best are the Supermicro AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 and the LSI 9211-8i

so around $100?

[Jarsky]

I already posted my build with recommended CPU if you want to build new. Ryzen 5 is your most cost efficient per core with 6C/12T

As for HBA's the 9211-8i is around $100 https://www.amazon.com/SAS9211-8I-8PORT-Int-Sata-Pcie/dp/B002RL8I7M

[BDunkz]

10 minutes ago, Jarsky said:

I already posted my build with recommended CPU if you want to build new. Ryzen 5 is your most cost efficient per core with 6C/12T

As for HBA's the 9211-8i is around $100 https://www.amazon.com/SAS9211-8I-8PORT-Int-Sata-Pcie/dp/B002RL8I7M

how does this look?

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/MTzjr7
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/MTzjr7/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($289.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($124.00 @ Umart) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($205.00 @ Scorptec) 
Storage: Transcend - 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.00 @ Centre Com) 
Storage: Western Digital - Red 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($209.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Storage: Western Digital - Red 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($209.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Storage: Western Digital - Red 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($209.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case: Silverstone - KL05B-Q ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.00 @ Umart) 
Power Supply: Silverstone - Strider Plus 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.00 @ Umart) 
Other: unraid ($60.00)
Total: $1542.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[Jarsky]

Looks good to me, theres just one caviet to your build though...

 

unRAID (just like FlexRAID) does disk spanning to create your storage pools, so if you want to be able to saturate 10Gbit you'll need SSD caching e.g 2 x 500GB 850 EVO's. unRAID writes to the cache first, then to the disks as scheduled.

 

To get the most performance from the disks directly, you'd want an array that does distributed reads/writes such as FreeNAS (which you cant just add disks later), Rockstor (RAID5/6 are still experimental for BTRFS), Linux MDADM (can be technical to work with) or Hardware RAID (expensive).

[BDunkz]

Just now, Jarsky said:

Looks good to me, theres just one caviet to your build though...

 

unRAID (just like FlexRAID) does disk spanning to create your storage pools, so if you want to be able to saturate 10Gbit you'll need SSD caching e.g 2 x 500GB 850 EVO's. unRAID writes to the cache first, then to the disks as scheduled.

 

To get the most performance from the disks directly, you'd want an array that does distributed reads/writes such as FreeNAS (which you cant just add disks later), Rockstor (RAID5/6 are still experimental for BTRFS), Linux MDADM (can be technical to work with) or Hardware RAID (expensive).

ill go with freenas, then when i get an ssd cache. can change over to unraid?

[Jarsky]

2 minutes ago, BDunkz said:

ill go with freenas, then when i get an ssd cache. can change over to unraid?

You'll have to migrate your data in some way if you don't want to lose it. unRAID doesn't understand the ZFS file structure and will need to wipe the drives to add it to the pool.

[BDunkz]

1 minute ago, Jarsky said:

You'll have to migrate your data in some way if you don't want to lose it. unRAID doesn't understand the ZFS file structure and will need to wipe the drives to add it to the pool.

so copy like evreything to a really big drive and then sort all the data into unraid?

[BDunkz]

12 minutes ago, Jarsky said:

2 x 500GB 850 EVO'

why not 1 1tb?

[Jarsky]

9 minutes ago, BDunkz said:

so copy like evreything to a really big drive and then sort all the data into unraid?

Basically

 

3 minutes ago, BDunkz said:

why not 1 1tb?

Because you'll be limited to 1 SATA3 interface - when you raid them then you distribute read/writes across them and have the combined speed of 2 SATA3 ports. So with 1 v 2 disks thats 6Gbps vs 12Gbps.

[BDunkz]

3 minutes ago, Jarsky said:

Basically

 

Because you'll be limited to 1 SATA3 interface - when you raid them then you distribute read/writes across them and have the combined speed of 2 SATA3 ports. So with 1 v 2 disks thats 6Gbps vs 12Gbps.

So run them in raid 0?

[Jarsky]

6 minutes ago, BDunkz said:

So run them in raid 0?

 

Yes, theyll be configured as such automatically as cache drives.