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Just now, DocSwag said:

If you can spend the money it's probably worth getting this guy, 1.1tb for $268.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bh38TW/crucial-mx300-11tb-25-solid-state-drive-ct1050mx300ssd1

 

If you can't spend as much this ssd is a bit worse and has 100 GB less capacity but it's only $249

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vLCwrH/sandisk-internal-hard-drive-sdssdhii960gg25

 

Or if you can't spend that much this 500gb ssd

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w6DzK8/sk-hynix-sl308-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-hfs500g32tnd-n1a2a

Why an NVMe ssd? It's pointless for a os and game drive.

Wow. That's actually a steal for what it's offering. I'll just not get a hard drive until I run out of space and buy that alone. Thanks!

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Just now, hey_yo_ said:

M.2 NVMe can remain fast while doing read and write simultaneously. With SATA, it can only do read or write one at a time because of the bottleneck imposed by AHCI.

And why exactly does that matter for OP?

 

Even so, at low queue depths (QD 1 or 2 ish) NVMe drives are still in sata drive bandwidth range.

2 minutes ago, nfolenius said:

actually, would you say the 500gb wd blue 2.5 ssd is okay?

It's not horrible but there are better ones out there. Where do you live?

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Just now, DocSwag said:

Why an NVMe ssd? It's pointless for a os and game drive.

OP is asking for better speeds. 

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2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

If you can spend the money it's probably worth getting this guy, 1.1tb for $268.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bh38TW/crucial-mx300-11tb-25-solid-state-drive-ct1050mx300ssd1

 

If you can't spend as much this ssd is a bit worse and has 100 GB less capacity but it's only $249

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vLCwrH/sandisk-internal-hard-drive-sdssdhii960gg25

 

Or if you can't spend that much this 500gb ssd

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w6DzK8/sk-hynix-sl308-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-hfs500g32tnd-n1a2a

Why an NVMe ssd? It's pointless for a os and game drive.

The MX300 is 1050GB, not 1.1TB

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Just now, hey_yo_ said:

OP is asking for better speeds. 

Except this doesn't improve boot times or app launch times which is what they mean by better speeds.

 

Who cares about higher peak sequential, when a) those are peak values and b) that's not what op is asking about

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2 minutes ago, hey_yo_ said:

M.2 NVMe can remain fast while doing read and write simultaneously. With SATA, it can only do read or write one at a time because of the bottleneck imposed by AHCI.

not worth the cost, anyone with a reasonable amount of money and half a brain would know. only use case I can imagine is Linus's 8k editing.

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1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

And why exactly does that matter for OP?

 

Even so, at low queue depths (QD 1 or 2 ish) NVMe drives are still in sata drive bandwidth range.

It's not horrible but there are better ones out there. Where do you live?

i live in oklahoma currently, but i will be moving to iowa when i purchase the pc???

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Just now, awesomegamer919 said:

The MX300 is 1050GB, not 1.1TB

Eh, the point was it is a lot of storage for a good price, xD

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Just now, awesomegamer919 said:

The MX300 is 1050GB, not 1.1TB

PCPP rounded to 1.1 so I assumed that's what it was, oops my bad :P 

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Just now, nfolenius said:

i live in oklahoma currently, but i will be moving to iowa when i purchase the pc???

Oh, I was just asking to make sure you were in the us so what I linked was relevant xD 

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Just now, Daniel Z. said:

not worth the cost, anyone with a reasonable amount of money and half a brain would know. only use case I can imagine is Linus's 8k editing.

A lot of high end workstations benefit from NVMe but then again, they benefit even more from Optane SSDs soo...

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4 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

If you can spend the money it's probably worth getting this guy, 1.1tb for $268.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bh38TW/crucial-mx300-11tb-25-solid-state-drive-ct1050mx300ssd1

 

If you can't spend as much this ssd is a bit worse and has 100 GB less capacity but it's only $249

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vLCwrH/sandisk-internal-hard-drive-sdssdhii960gg25

 

Or if you can't spend that much this 500gb ssd

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w6DzK8/sk-hynix-sl308-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-hfs500g32tnd-n1a2a

Why an NVMe ssd? It's pointless for a os and game drive.

agreed

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Just now, awesomegamer919 said:

A lot of high end workstations benefit from NVMe but then again, they benefit even more from Optane SSDs soo...

This is going in a streaming/gaming build (streaming video games)

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Just now, nfolenius said:

This is going in a streaming/gaming build (streaming video games)

I know, just pointing there are more uses than 8K video production :P

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Just now, awesomegamer919 said:

I know, just pointing there are more uses than 8K video production :P

lol

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Just now, awesomegamer919 said:

A lot of high end workstations benefit from NVMe but then again, they benefit even more from Optane SSDs soo...

Right now, Optane memory is just at 16 or 32 GB capacities. Also, reviews for optane memory are quite lackluster at the moment.

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13 minutes ago, hey_yo_ said:

Nope. M.2 ssd goes directly to your PCIe slot while the 850 Evo is plugged to your SATA cables and have it mounted on your case. You can ask @Bleedingyamato, he has both the Samsung 960 Pro and his older 850 Pro.

If OP just needs a boot drive with room for some games an 850 Pro or Evo would work well unless he wants an M.2 drive which he might not it sounds like.  

 

My understanding is that an NVME ssd like the 960 Pro will be mostly/if not only be noticeable in certain use cases.  For simply looking for fast bootup and games an 850 Pro or Evo will still deliver fast speed while saving money.  

 

A Pro would be preferable IMO because it'll last a crazy long time but even the Evo will likely outlive the computer unless OP is writing to it a lot more than an average amount.

 

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1 minute ago, nfolenius said:

This is going in a streaming/gaming build (streaming video games)

Then you're fine with 850 Evo 500 GB at $178 

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Just now, hey_yo_ said:

Right now, Optane memory is just at 16 or 32 GB capacities. Also, reviews for optane memory are quite lackluster at the moment.

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Larger drives do exist, they are just stupidly expensive...
 

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Just now, hey_yo_ said:

Right now, Optane memory is just at 16 or 32 GB capacities. Also, reviews for optane memory are quite lackluster at the moment.

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i wouldn't pay that much for +1 second boot time

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8 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

If you can spend the money it's probably worth getting this guy, 1.1tb for $268.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bh38TW/crucial-mx300-11tb-25-solid-state-drive-ct1050mx300ssd1

 

If you can't spend as much this ssd is a bit worse and has 100 GB less capacity but it's only $249

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vLCwrH/sandisk-internal-hard-drive-sdssdhii960gg25

 

Or if you can't spend that much this 500gb ssd

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w6DzK8/sk-hynix-sl308-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-hfs500g32tnd-n1a2a

Why an NVMe ssd? It's pointless for a os and game drive.

Well for gaming NVMe is pointless. It can provide some benefits for the OS.

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1 minute ago, TheCherryKing said:

Well for gaming NVMe is pointless. It can provide some benefits for the OS.

Source?

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4 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Source?

Boot times are like 1-2s faster if that's your thing :P

 

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1 minute ago, awesomegamer919 said:

Boot times are like 1-2s faster if that's your thing :P

 

http://techreport.com/review/30993/samsung-960-evo-ssd-reviewed/5

I consider that margin of error :P 

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