Can I use Type-C port on the 2017 Ryzen motherboards as Video-out?

[noobee]

I have a monitor that only has DisplayPort, DVI, and HDMI connections. However I have been using it with Type-C - DisplayPort adapter to my new macbook pro 2016.

 

I want to buy a new desktop PC with Ryzen CPU to use it with my current monitor.

If I choose the new motherboard based on the availability of DisplayPort, then it will give me only few motherboards to choose.

I don't want the motherboards that only has HDMI port as it only support 30 hz refresh rate.

 

When I see my new macbook pro connected with the monitor with Type-C, I also see that some of the new ryzen motherboards have USB Type-C ports but no DisplayPort. 

For example http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty X370 Gaming-ITXac/ (wonder who would use the 2 HDMI that only supports 30hz).

This motherboard got a Type-C port but no DisplayPort.

 

So my question is that can I use the Type-C port on the Ryzen motherboards as a video-out? Even with the DisplayPort-Type-C dongle? Will it reach 60hz? Anybody is currently using this setup?

If this is possible, then I can widen my options.

 

Thank You

 

[Guest]

Ryzen has no igpu, the video port is for upcoming apu that uses same socket 

[LienusLateTips]

No because Ryzen doesn't have intergrated, and there isn't a type-c on the GPU.

[noobee]

So you're saying that I use the motherboards without Graphics board, even those motherboards got HDMI or DisplayPort? In other words those Graphics out ports are there for nothing?

[flibberdipper]

Just now, noobee said:

So you're saying that I use the motherboards without Graphics board, even those motherboards got HDMI or DisplayPort? In other words those Graphics out ports are there for nothing?

They're there for APU's being released later on.

[Sir Asvald]

Just now, noobee said:

So you're saying that I use the motherboards without Graphics board, even those motherboards got HDMI or DisplayPort? In other words those Graphics out ports are there for nothing?

Those are going to be used for the APU's that are coming out later this year. 

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, noobee said:

So you're saying that I use the motherboards without Graphics board, even those motherboards got HDMI or DisplayPort? In other words those Graphics out ports are there for nothing?

Please quote us next time so we get a notification.

 

No, there will be CPUs coming out in Q3/Q4 that have iGPUs, and they use the same socket. So they have to have one. You have to use the GPU, which 99% of the time have Displayport.

[pyrojoe34]

Just now, noobee said:

So you're saying that I use the motherboards without Graphics board, even those motherboards got HDMI or DisplayPort? In other words those Graphics out ports are there for nothing?

Correct, unless that specific board has on-board graphics (most don't these days, I can't think of any that do). Like was said above those ports are probably there for future APUs that will have iGPUs.

[LAwLz]

Like the others have said, the current Ryzen chips on the market don't have any GPUs.

If you go to the specifications page on the motherboard you linked you will see this:

 

Basically, you won't get video out even from the HDMI ports if you go for a chip like the Ryzen 1600 or 1700. You will only get video output straight from the motherboard if you go for an APU (which are not Ryzen based and therefore probably not worth buying).

You will need a discrete graphics card.

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, LAwLz said:

which are not Ryzen based and therefore probably not worth buying)

You can't buy the Bulldozer AM4 ones unless you are a OEM, and the Ryzen AM4 ones are coming out later this year.

[paddy-stone]

I have type c on mine too, on these mobos the type c is there for USB 3.2? usage, so upto 10Gb/s speeds, just using the type c connector instead of the 3.2 connector (usually green), it doesn't have the capability for display output (alternate mode IIRC), The alternate mode has to be supported both by the PC/device and the monitor/device.

[LienusLateTips]

3 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

I have type c on mine too, on these mobos the type c is there for USB 3.2? usage, so upto 10Gb/s speeds, just using the type c connector instead of the 3.2 connector (usually green), it doesn't have the capability for display output (alternate mode IIRC), The alternate mode has to be supported both by the PC/device and the monitor/device.

USB 3.1 gen 2.

[paddy-stone]

Just now, JDE said:

USB 3.1 gen 2.

LOL, yeah I knew it was wrong, I'm just having a bad memory day today unfortuantely. Thanks for clearing that up for me

 

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, paddy-stone said:

LOL, yeah I knew it was wrong, I'm just having a bad memory day today unfortuantely. Thanks for clearing that up for me

 

3.1 gen 1 = 3.0 rebranded

3.1 gen 2 = 10GbPS

[noobee]

11 minutes ago, JDE said:

Please quote us next time so we get a notification.

 

No, there will be CPUs coming out in Q3/Q4 that have iGPUs, and they use the same socket. So they have to have one. You have to use the GPU, which 99% of the time have Displayport.

So do you think it's worth to buy Ryzen 1700 now? or should I wait for the Ryzen that has APU?

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, noobee said:

So do you think it's worth to buy Ryzen 1700 now? or should I wait for the Ryzen that has APU?

The Ryzen that has APU most likely will be a repurposed Ryzen 3 chip. What are you doing with this computer? Are you getting a GPU?

[noobee]

Just now, JDE said:

The Ryzen that has APU most likely will be a repurposed Ryzen 3 chip. What are you doing with this computer? Are you getting a GPU?

I want to use it as a workstation for coding, games, listening to music, videos, all at the same time. So I need a high end CPU. So they will only release (at least start with) mid to low-end CPU like Ryzen 3 for the APU release?

[Guest]

Just now, noobee said:

I want to use it as a workstation for coding, games, listening to music, videos, all at the same time. So I need a high end CPU. So they will only release (at least start with) mid to low-end CPU like Ryzen 3 for the APU release?

For gaming you must have a dedicated graphics card, apu are more like low end

[noobee]

2 minutes ago, JDE said:

The Ryzen that has APU most likely will be a repurposed Ryzen 3 chip. What are you doing with this computer? Are you getting a GPU?

Don't really feel like buying a GPU but if I have to with the Ryzen 1700, then I need to buy it right?

[paddy-stone]

Just now, JDE said:

3.1 gen 1 = 3.0 rebranded

3.1 gen 2 = 10GbPS

Yeah, I know, I have memory problems and couldn't think of the actual number is all, hence the question mark. I hate that I have this problem, caused by my illness... it's very frustrating, I can sit here for hours trying to think of somehting some days, and that's just usual things that most people don't have to think about at all.

[noobee]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

For gaming you must have a dedicated graphics card, apu are more like low end

Yes, but I only do light gaming like LoL or Dota 2. Anyway, I guess I'll need to get a GPU too..

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, noobee said:

Don't really feel like buying a GPU but if I have to with the Ryzen 1700, then I need to buy it right?

If you want to play games other than esports at 60fps 1080p, you will need a GPU.

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, noobee said:

Yes, but I only do light gaming like LoL or Dota 2. Anyway, I guess I'll need to get a GPU too..

What's your total budget for the whole PC?

[LienusLateTips]

4 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

For gaming you must have a dedicated graphics card, apu are more like low end

Well not really, I managed to get by with HD 4600 playing Cities Skylines at 720p Low 30fps

[Guest]

Just now, JDE said:

Well not really, I managed to get by with HD 4600 playing Cities Skylines at 720p Low 30fps

Low,720p,only 30fps

 

wow

 

What kind of pcmr are you