IS $30 worth going from a 1700 to 1700x?

[knightslugger]

Just now, mrthuvi said:

Holly shit....

So the moral of the story is, stay under 1.4V

[Princess Luna]

My thoughts are, if you have to ask yourself whether it is worth it then it probably isn't, people getting 1700x or 1800x just can afford it and won't mind doing so, if you have a limit budget and needs to make the most out of it then the 1700 is the one to go.

[Sin Stalker]

15 hours ago, sgloux3470 said:

Assuming a 200 MHz higher max OC as a worse case scenario, that's roughly a 5% difference in performance.   There's no guarantees with the silicon lottery though.

 

 

5% more performance for 10% more money.  

 

 

 

What about 5% more performance for 3.5% more money?

 

I found a deal where its only $10 more. The 1700 is $270 and the 1700x is $280.

[sgloux3470]

12 hours ago, Sin Stalker said:

What about 5% more performance for 3.5% more money?

 

I found a deal where its only $10 more. The 1700 is $270 and the 1700x is $280.

 

For $10 what the heck.  Provided you have a compatible cooler.

[Sin Stalker]

8 minutes ago, sgloux3470 said:

 

For $10 what the heck.  Provided you have a compatible cooler.

So it turns out its $10 cheaper to go with the 1700x, so went with that before the deal ends. I'll get the cooler bracket soon.

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Sin Stalker said:

So it turns out its $10 cheaper to go with the 1700x, so went with that before the deal ends. I'll get the cooler bracket soon.

What hasn't been said is the 1800x and 1700x will OC close to a 1700 like 100-200mhz difference at the most...........However at 1.35V one should be able to use lower voltage for the same frequency meaning cooler CPU and VRM and less power consumption. 

 

Ryzen 1800X in theory is binned higher then a 1700. Same can be said for the 1700X compared to the 1700. 

 

Saying this as a proud owner of a ryzen 1700. I'd buy the 1700 again but make sure i spend the extra savings on either better ram or a better board. 

[Simon771]

My R7 1700 is stuck at 3,8GHz on all cores.

It won't go above that.

 

It depends on your luck, but if I would be buying again, I would go with 1700X and try my luck there.

[sgloux3470]

10 hours ago, jdwii said:

What hasn't been said is the 1800x and 1700x will OC close to a 1700 like 100-200mhz difference at the most...........However at 1.35V one should be able to use lower voltage for the same frequency meaning cooler CPU and VRM and less power consumption. 

 

Ryzen 1800X in theory is binned higher then a 1700. Same can be said for the 1700X compared to the 1700. 

 

Saying this as a proud owner of a ryzen 1700. I'd buy the 1700 again but make sure i spend the extra savings on either better ram or a better board. 

 

10 hours ago, Simon771 said:

My R7 1700 is stuck at 3,8GHz on all cores.

It won't go above that.

 

It depends on your luck, but if I would be buying again, I would go with 1700X and try my luck there.

 

That's the thing though, it's all luck of the draw.

 

The 1700X may be slightly better binned, but there's no real guarantee of that.

 

I've seen people with 1800X's that need tons of voltage for a stable overclocked in the 3.9 GHz+ range and have a crappy memory controller, and some 1700's that needed 1.32 V for 4.0 GHz and are running 3400+ MHz memory.

 

At the end of the day, any differences between the three are really minor.  Slightly less voltage/powerconsumption/heat, slightly more performance.  It's generally not worth the extra money unless you get a good deal.  

[Guest]

4 hours ago, sgloux3470 said:

 

 

That's the thing though, it's all luck of the draw.

 

The 1700X may be slightly better binned, but there's no real guarantee of that.

 

I've seen people with 1800X's that need tons of voltage for a stable overclocked in the 3.9 GHz+ range and have a crappy memory controller, and some 1700's that needed 1.32 V for 4.0 GHz and are running 3400+ MHz memory.

 

At the end of the day, any differences between the three are really minor.  Slightly less voltage/powerconsumption/heat, slightly more performance.  It's generally not worth the extra money unless you get a good deal.  

In theory though binning should make the 1700X-1800X more fun to OC and more likely to hit that 4.0 but its not the better deal. Guess if i didn't get a 1700 i wouldn't have a smaller fan to put over my VRM.