IS $30 worth going from a 1700 to 1700x?

[Sin Stalker]

The 1700x is on sale, to where the difference between it and the 1700 is $30.

 

Is the 9% difference in price worth the performance difference?

[Coaxialgamer]

if  you can get the wraith max cooler with it , sure . Otherwise don't bother.

 

[Sin Stalker]

1 minute ago, Coaxialgamer said:

if  you can get the wraith max cooler with it , sure . Otherwise don't bother.

 

The 1700 comes with the wraith max cooler.

[ZeusXI]

Just now, Sin Stalker said:

The 1700 comes with the wraith max cooler.

the 1700x doesnt though

[Coaxialgamer]

Just now, Sin Stalker said:

The 1700 comes with the wraith max cooler.

The 1700 comes with the wraith spire , which is smaller. 

The wraith max only sometimes come with the ryzen 7 X processors.

[LienusLateTips]

Nope, can overclock.

[Sin Stalker]

13 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

The 1700 comes with the wraith spire , which is smaller. 

The wraith max only sometimes come with the ryzen 7 X processors.

Well what if I already have my own Noctua cooler?

[Coaxialgamer]

Just now, Sin Stalker said:

Well what if I already have my own Noctua cooler?

do you have mounting hardware or it ? Tbh , both cpus should be able to reach similar speeds once overclocked . By getting the 1700x , you might get 100mhz more if your lucky . Resell value might be higher if you ever decide to sell it . There's no real advantage to it. 

[knightslugger]

XFR is nice. 3.9GHz boost on 1 physical core (2 logical cores) can be appealing for single threaded usage.

[Sin Stalker]

5 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

do you have mounting hardware or it ? Tbh , both cpus should be able to reach similar speeds once overclocked . By getting the 1700x , you might get 100mhz more if your lucky . Resell value might be higher if you ever decide to sell it . There's no real advantage to it. 

Noctua sends out free mounts with proof of purchase. So not an issue.

So only really a minor better OC and possible better resell?

5 hours ago, knightslugger said:

XFR is nice. 3.9GHz boost on 1 physical core (2 logical cores) can be appealing for single threaded usage.

Whats XFR?

[Coaxialgamer]

5 hours ago, Sin Stalker said:

Noctua sends out free mounts with proof of purchase. So not an issue.

 

So only really a minor better OC and possible better resell?

yep . pretty much .

5 hours ago, Sin Stalker said:

Whats XFR?

It's AMD's boosting tech . If power and thermal allow , you can get 100mhz extra out of the 1700x and 1800x at stock vs their standard boost speeds ( 3.8 and 4ghz respectively ).

 

[kalnick]

22 minutes ago, Sin Stalker said:

The 1700x is on sale, to where the difference between it and the 1700 is $30.

 

Is the 9% difference in price worth the performance difference?

If you have a cpu cooler and want a higher binned cpu then get the 1700X.

The 1700 should be able to over clock to same speeds as the 1700x

 

[knightslugger]

Just now, Sin Stalker said:

Whats XFR?

XFR is eXtended Frequency Range and only applies to the X series CPUs from AMD. It boosts the single core speed by 100MHz when the CPU detects robust cooling presence.

 

it is not offered on the non-X series CPUs and is disabled when overclocked.

 

I have killed one 1700x already trying to get that XFR frequency on all cores and i will not try again.

[Sin Stalker]

19 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

XFR is eXtended Frequency Range and only applies to the X series CPUs from AMD. It boosts the single core speed by 100MHz when the CPU detects robust cooling presence.

 

it is not offered on the non-X series CPUs and is disabled when overclocked.

 

I have killed one 1700x already trying to get that XFR frequency on all cores and i will not try again.

So the dif is slight better overclock, possible better resell and single core boost of 100mhz if not OCed?

[Emberstone]

1 hour ago, knightslugger said:

I have killed one 1700x already trying to get that XFR frequency on all cores and i will not try again.

How much voltage did you use? I'm curious.

[He_162]

If you plan on overclocking, of course it is. The 1700(X) is hand picked to be able to run at higher clocks and similar or the same voltages as the R7 1700, so it will have more overclocking headroom and produce less heat doing so, so if you take that into consideration, and you plan on overclocking, it's a great option.

Potentially R7 1800x performance for 100$ cheaper.

[jjohnthedon1]

1700 comes with a cooler 

extra year warranty 

oc's the same 

 

only a idiot would try to get xfr to run on all cores instead of just ocing the extra 100mhz

[He_162]

2 hours ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

1700 comes with a cooler 

extra year warranty 

oc's the same 

 

only a idiot would try to get xfr to run on all cores instead of just ocing the extra 100mhz

Theres a much higher chance of getting a chip that can do 4ghz with the X series, that is all, but it's only 30$, and if you plan on getting that high of an OC, you'll get a third party cooler, like an AIO liquid, or good air cooler, so you're looking at a "negligible" 30$.

I'd do it

[Sin Stalker]

10 minutes ago, He_162 said:

Theres a much higher chance of getting a chip that can do 4ghz with the X series, that is all, but it's only 30$, and if you plan on getting that high of an OC, you'll get a third party cooler, like an AIO liquid, or good air cooler, so you're looking at a "negligible" 30$.

I'd do it

I already own a good air cooler in hopes of getting the best OC I can get. I'd LOVE 4GHz

[sgloux3470]

Assuming a 200 MHz higher max OC as a worse case scenario, that's roughly a 5% difference in performance.   There's no guarantees with the silicon lottery though.

 

 

5% more performance for 10% more money.  

 

 

 

[NoMercy]

1 hour ago, Sin Stalker said:

I already own a good air cooler in hopes of getting the best OC I can get. I'd LOVE 4GHz

Just to keep you not being over hyped, there is a chance that even 1700x cant OC pass 4ghz. But ofcourse statistically 1700x has higher chance to overclock higher than 1700.

[Sin Stalker]

33 minutes ago, sgloux3470 said:

Assuming a 200 MHz higher max OC as a worse case scenario, that's roughly a 5% difference in performance.   There's no guarantees with the silicon lottery though.

 

 

5% more performance for 10% more money.  

 

 

 

Its actually more like 13% now. I found both cheaper on Amazon right now. For some reason the 1700 price on amazon isn't being picked up by PC Part Picker. 

[knightslugger]

16 hours ago, Emberstone said:

How much voltage did you use? I'm curious.

1.55 i think is as high as it would go, and it lasted a month.

[knightslugger]

17 hours ago, Sin Stalker said:

So the dif is slight better overclock, possible better resell and single core boost of 100mhz if not OCed?

XFR applies to single core and multicore.

[mrthuvi]

6 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

1.55 i think is as high as it would go, and it lasted a month.

Holly shit.... No wonder it died.