Can't decide on CPU

[panayiotis]

Hi guys,

 

I am trying to build a system for myself and i cannot decide with everything that has been going on with the cpus both from AMD and Intel. Basically i want a system for 4K gaming, be able to support linux and can be configured as a hackintosh. I have concluded on graphics card and everything else except when it comes to the cpu and the architecture. Also i have found some posts online that claims to have run hackintosh on ryzen and works, otherwise i wouldn't have considered it.

 

I am open to all suggestions, i have budget limit of 700 pounds for both CPU and Motherboard. At this moment i am between ryzen 7 1800x and i7 6850k (for the pcie lanes).

 

Thanks in advance for the help.

[3rrant]

1 minute ago, panayiotis said:

Hi guys,

 

I am trying to build a system for myself and i cannot decide with everything that has been going on with the cpus both from AMD and Intel. Basically i want a system for 4K gaming, be able to support linux and can be configured as a hackintosh. I have concluded on graphics card and everything else except when it comes to the cpu and the architecture. Also i have found some posts online that claims to have run hackintosh on ryzen and works, otherwise i wouldn't have considered it.

 

I am open to all suggestions, i have budget limit of 700 pounds for both CPU and Motherboard. At this moment i am between ryzen 7 1800x and i7 6850k (for the pcie lanes).

 

Thanks in advance for the help.

Go with Ryzen. It's a much better bang for the bucks and it performs perfectly at 4K.

 

About WHICH Ryzen.. with your budget, wait august and check out Threadripper platform and offerings. A 1800X is great, true, but if you buy a 1700 you can overclock it within 10 minutes to 3,9GHz and there you have your 1800X, half the cost (Really.).

 

So, I suggest you to wait and see what Threadripper can do, and decide with that in mind.

[LucasRem]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/

 

[RawLobster]

At high resolutions like 4k, the graphics card is going to do a vast majority of the work in gaming. There are many benchmarks that show this - many very different top end processors resulting in the exact same frame rates as others in very different price territories. It really all depends on what you want to spend. You could definitely save a lot of money going with a Ryzen 7 option, both on the chip and motherboard, and still be able game in 4k just as well as the comparable Intel top end chips. It's up to you if you'd rather spend that money on things like SSD's or just put more money into your GPU, both of which would be far more noticeable IMO.

[aisle9]

Just now, ErrantNyles said:

if you buy a 1700 you can overclock it within 10 minutes to 3,9GHz and there you have your 1800X, half the cost (Really.).

Unless you buy a POS Gigabyte motherboard that's got all kinds of RGB and audio drivers and loads of SATA ports but overclocks like ass. Seriously, any advice that someone should buy a 1700 and OC should include the asterisk "*but not with a Gigabyte mobo", because it seems based upon my experience and many others that their AM4 boards are crap for overclocking.

 

@panayiotis, even after all that is said, I'd still go Ryzen. The number of use cases in which Intel CPUs are just a clear-cut better option is getting smaller, and plenty of software manufacturers still haven't really optimized for Ryzen yet...

[EPPHO]

Get Ryzen 7

[ltguy]

2 minutes ago, RawLobster said:

At high resolutions like 4k, the graphics card is going to do a vast majority of the work in gaming. There are many benchmarks that show this - many very different top end processors resulting in the exact same frame rates as others in very different price territories. It really all depends on what you want to spend. You could definitely save a lot of money going with a Ryzen 7 option, both on the chip and motherboard, and still be able game in 4k just as well as the comparable Intel top end chips. It's up to you if you'd rather spend that money on things like SSD's or just put more money into your GPU, both of which would be far more noticeable IMO.

Give this man a megaphone.

[TDCTomas]

Ryzen 7 on a nice b350 or X370 mobo and aftermarket cooler

[DrMacintosh]

Well if you want the possibility of making the computer into a Hackintosh you should consider Intel. Any of the 7th gen Kabby Lake processors will work just fine. The new iMacs have them and so do the MacBooks.  

 

People have gotten Hackintoshes to run on Ryzen systems but you have to do a lot of work because Apple does not have anything with Ryzen CPUs. 

[3rrant]

26 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Unless you buy a POS Gigabyte motherboard that's got all kinds of RGB and audio drivers and loads of SATA ports but overclocks like ass. Seriously, any advice that someone should buy a 1700 and OC should include the asterisk "*but not with a Gigabyte mobo", because it seems based upon my experience and many others that their AM4 boards are crap for overclocking.

 

@panayiotis, even after all that is said, I'd still go Ryzen. The number of use cases in which Intel CPUs are just a clear-cut better option is getting smaller, and plenty of software manufacturers still haven't really optimized for Ryzen yet...

Dunno about gigabyte, I have an Asus. But, I've had many gigabyte motherboards in my life and none of them had OC problems, so I wouldn't say anything bad about them without more researchs honestly.

[aisle9]

8 minutes ago, ErrantNyles said:

Dunno about gigabyte, I have an Asus. But, I've had many gigabyte motherboards in my life and none of them had OC problems, so I wouldn't say anything bad about them without more researchs honestly.

I had a Gigabyte Z97 for my 4790K and it overclocked like a dream until the board fried. Bought a Gaming-3 because of how well the first one worked and how solid the feature set is, then couldn't get my 1700 to stabilize at 3.8GHz even with 1.38v through it when I ran into the thermal limits of the Wraith Spire. Looked online thinking maybe I had a dud chip, but there are a lot of stories on the redditverse about how bad the Gigabyte AM4 boards are for overclocking, and how they need a ton of voltage because they're just poorly designed for that purpose.

 

So, yeah, not knocking Gigabyte much for this (although I'm about to blast them based upon a series of other recent happenings), but I do think it's fair to warn others at this point that if they intend to overclock their Ryzen CPU, ASUS or AsRock are probably better ideas.

 

If only Micro Center hadn't been out of that AsRock board

[panayiotis]

Thank you guys for your comments and suggestions, i think i have concluded to Ryzen 7 1700x with Asus Crosshair VI AC, i looked online and i found multiple posts and guides on how to install hackintosh on a pc with ryzen. So i suppose, even if it requires a lot of work, it feasible to install hackintosh. Now should i wait for a bit till there is more support for Ryzen on buy now the components?

[JoostinOnline]

I won't get another Gigabyte board after the Z97 one I bought.  They stopped giving updates after less than a year.  And it really needed them.