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Is this reason to rma 1080 Ti FE ?

zzz123
Hi. I have weird little problem with my Gtx 1080 Ti FE. Mostly of the time , on load , clocks are 1550-1700mhz ,fan speed is on auto 49-50% ,temps of course are high 85C and GPUZ reporting THRM ( purple field ).



But.........sometimes when i run game or benchmark fan speed is on auto too but it is raising itself to 60% and temps of course are smaller and clocks are higher like 1800mhz and gpuz not reporting thermal limit



. I dont have installed any oc programs,like afterburner or precision. Only fraps,gpuz,cpuz. I will be very greatful for help here. 

Please help. 



Somebody said this to me:"Try the card in a different computer to see if the problem follows the card. If it does then it is time to start a RMA."

So i am worried now.



I am on 378.92 drivers.
Ah and ambient temp on the room is always the same. I am using card on the same case.
 
 
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i dont see why this would a rma reason
install afterburner and raise the temp/power limits to the max and see how it goes
maybe make a custom fan curve while you're at it

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I am on stock fan curve. No programs installed. Stock all. And sometimes fan on a card goes on load to  60% fan speed. 

But mostly often is 49%. It is doing itself without my control. Any ideas why?

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3 minutes ago, zzz123 said:

I am on stock fan curve. No programs installed. Stock all. And sometimes fan on a card goes on load to  60% fan speed. 

But mostly often is 49%. It is doing itself without my control. Any ideas why?

vbios settings. Just override it with custom fan curve.

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Ok last question. Any ideas why is this happening?

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Nothing is wrong with your card. The FE is a horrible cooling solution and clocks suffer as a result. You actually probably could OC it and get higher clocks anyway. Also WTF is the formatting?

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nvidia cards are designed to work as fast as they can up to some limit, either voltage, clock, power or temperature. Sounds like in this case, it is temperature. This is not a fault condition unless like the fan dies. My 980Ti reference does it. My 1070 FE does it. My 980Ti windforce doesn't do it.

 

Improving the cooling, either by using a time machine to pick a different model in the first place, or perhaps by replacing existing with watercooling will help prevent the thermal throttle and shift the limit elsewhere.

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5 minutes ago, zzz123 said:

Ok last question. Any ideas why is this happening?

Because the fan is reacting to heat load. A perfectly normal thing to happen. The fan ramps up as the heat increases to deal with it. 

 

50% is inadequate to keep it cool under load. Would be ok if you had a bigger two or three fan cooler with fans >90mm in size. But for a blower it really needs to get loud before it does any reasonable job. 

 

Not sure what complete tool wanted you to RMA the card. There's nothing wrong with it. The fan is doing it's job by reacting to the additional heat when it's on auto. Nothing wrong there. 

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But sometimes its not reaching thermal limit. There is PWR ( Green field ) on gpuz and fan is 60%. Always reaching thermal limit when fan is on 49%.

 

One time i run UNIGINE HEAVEN and fan speed is on 60% which resulting higher clocks and smaller temps.
Second time i run UNIGINE HEAVEN and fan speed is 49% which resulting on lower clocks . 

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7 minutes ago, zzz123 said:

But sometimes its not reaching thermal limit. There is PWR ( Green field ) on gpuz and fan is 60%. Always reaching thermal limit when fan is on 49%.

There are multiple limits on the card. Power Limit, Voltage Limit, Temp Limit, and Usage Limit. All 4 of those matter in clock speed. Just because it isn't reaching a thermal limit does not mean the card can still boost higher as their are other limits to be looked at.

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Yeah but why...One time i run UNIGINE HEAVEN and fan speed is on 60% which resulting higher clocks and smaller temps.
Next day i run UNIGINE HEAVEN and fan speed is 49% which resulting on lower clocks . It is without my control. No apps installed.

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2 minutes ago, zzz123 said:

Yeah but why...One time i run UNIGINE HEAVEN and fan speed is on 60% which resulting higher clocks and smaller temps.
Next day i run UNIGINE HEAVEN and fan speed is 49% which resulting on lower clocks . It is without my control. No apps installed.

The temps in the case or in the room will very mattering on time of day. Obviously something is different between runs that you aren't telling us.

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It hits thermal limit because fan speed is on 49% on auto. But sometimes fan speed goes itself up to 60% and there is not downclocking like was on 49%. So this i cant understand. Fan sometimes is on 60% without my control which resulting on higher clocks
Testing on the same UNIGINE HEAVEN.

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It hits thermal limit because fan speed is on 49% on auto. But sometimes fan speed goes itself up to 60% and there is not downclocking like was on 49%. So this i cant understand. Fan sometimes is on 60% without my control which resulting on higher clocks
Testing on the same UNIGINE HEAVEN.

You simply aren't telling us everything. All you are giving is clocks and fan speed. Not limits, ambient, cpu issues.

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6700K CPU is on stock . Small temps 50-60C on benchmark. Ambient is the same all day 23C. I think is something related BIOS of card. That sometimes card is not reaching THERMAL LIMIT because fan speed going on auto to 60% which is weird. Because i dont change speed.

 

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6700K CPU is on stock . Small temps 50-60C on benchmark. Ambient is the same all day 23C.

Again. Not telling us the status of all gpu limits.

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Ok. One time i run Unigine Heaven and GPUZ reporting all time POWER LIMIT ( Green Field ) with fan speed 60% auto.

Next day i run the same loop of Unigine Heaven and gpuz reporting after few minutes THERMAL LIMIT ( purple field ) but with fan speed 49% auto. This!

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1 minute ago, zzz123 said:

Ok. One time i run Unigine Heaven and GPUZ reporting all time POWER LIMIT ( Green Field ) with fan speed 60% auto.

Next day i run the same loop of Unigine Heaven and gpuz reporting after few minutes THERMAL LIMIT ( purple field ) but with fan speed 49% auto. This!

Yet. Again. Those aren't all the limits. There are at least 2 more.

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Ah sorry but other limits gpuz are not reporting.

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1 minute ago, zzz123 said:

Ah sorry but other limits gpuz are not reporting.

Ok now I get how you are telling us. Are you seeing these clocks at the exact same point in the benchmark at the exact same time after starting both the PC and the application,

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No. ALL time in benchmark ,one day i get only POWER LIMIT ( gpuz green field ) and fan speed is on 60%.

ALL time in benchmark, second day i get THERMAL LIMIT ( gpuz purple field ) and fan speed is on 49%.

 

 

Unigine or 3dmark , doesnt matter.

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4 minutes ago, zzz123 said:

No. ALL time in benchmark ,one day i get only POWER LIMIT ( gpuz green field ) and fan speed is on 60%.

ALL time in benchmark, second day i get THERMAL LIMIT ( gpuz purple field ) and fan speed is on 49%.

 

 

Unigine or 3dmark , doesnt matter.

You really are going to have to prove that because that is hilariously abnormal behavior.

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Yes. Sometimes fan speed locking to 60% auto in benchmarks. Normally locking to 49% . And i dont know why.

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