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TitanOne

iMac Pro: F!%K YEAH or Hell nah?  

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  1. 1. Storage: Single drive or Raid 0?

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  2. 2. Monitors: One GPU enough (Almost 44 MILLION Pixels)?

    • Maybe, we don't know much about Vega.
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Sooooo, you probably have heard of Apple announcing the "iMac Pro" (If you watch the WAN Show you will definetly).

The Features sound pretty darn cool (I will ignore the price), with up to 18 Cores, 128GB Ram, 4TB of Storage at 3GB/s and more stuff.

 

The Thing is, I am not sure how Apple will do some of the stuff and would like to know the Community's oppinion.

For Example the Storage: What do you think? Two M.2s in Raid 0?

 

Or the GODDAMN MONITOR SUPPORT: Native 5K Screen PLUS Two additional ones over Thunderbolt 3!? That's almost 44 MILLION Pixels! Will Vega be that powerful to support it on one GPU at decent FPS? Or will a, for example, SLI Setup with 1080Ti's be enough (then we could predict Vega performance, right? Right?)?

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again!!!!!!! NO F***ING CPU MODEL NUMBER!!!!! apple does not give any useful information whatsoever

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1 minute ago, TitanOne said:

Will Vega be that powerful to support it on one GPU at decent FPS?

Yes

 

Also Apple is rumored to be working on Displays with their own GPUs to drive them without impacting the performance of the iMac or MacBook that would be using it. 

 

Also Apple is adding support for external GPUs so there will be a work around if issues to arise. 

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Just now, MrMcMuffinJr said:

again!!!!!!! NO F***ING CPU MODEL NUMBER!!!!! apple does not give any useful information whatsoever

Well you have to think of who they market to. The CPU model number is useless to most people. Sure you can argue that the Pros might want to know what CPU it is, but a little logical deduction and you can see intel only has a few Kaby lake Xeons. 

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Just now, MrMcMuffinJr said:

again!!!!!!! NO F***ING CPU MODEL NUMBER!!!!! apple does not give any useful information whatsoever

Buggin' me as well, Buddy. Either a Xeon (Wow, there are like threr or more 18 Core Xeons in Intels lineup) or the rumoured X299 Model.

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1 minute ago, TitanOne said:

or the rumoured X299

not a chance Apple will use that cancer. 

 

Its on the website, its Xeon. 

 

https://www.apple.com/imac-pro/

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1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

Yes

 

Also Apple is rumored to be working on Displays with their own GPUs to drive them without impacting the performance of the iMac or MacBook that would be using it. 

 

Also Apple is adding support for external GPUs so there will be a work around if issues to arise. 

I haven't heard about it. Where did you find that Info though?

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Just now, TitanOne said:

Where did you find that Info though?

WWDC 2017

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3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Well you have to think of who they market to. The CPU model number is useless to most people. Sure you can argue that the Pros might want to know what CPU it is, but a little logical deduction and you can see intel only has a few Kaby lake Xeons. 

they people who it is useless to just ignor it then. they could at least give a "specs for nerds" thing like youtube

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Just now, MrMcMuffinJr said:

they could at least give a "specs for nerds" thing like youtube

Write some feedback. 

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2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Write some feedback. 

apple is a huge corporation did you hear

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1 minute ago, MrMcMuffinJr said:

apple is a huge corporation did you hear

One of the biggest in the world. 

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18 minutes ago, TitanOne said:

Will Vega be that powerful to support it on one GPU at decent FPS?

Your not gaming, so the extra pixels won't slow it down much if there just displaying menu's or video, these are designed to be used for compute.

 

19 minutes ago, TitanOne said:

Two M.2s in Raid 0?

Custom ssd and no raid, raid is just a pain and apple has never done it stock.

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4 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

just different marketing

#Intel

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

that's a neat looking space heater. 

So are most PCs

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

So are most PCs

......Macs are PCs, your point?  

 

edit- PC- personal computer 

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5 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

#Intel

not like lots of other companys do that.

 

all the amd fx 43x 63x 83x and some opterons are the same die, same with all ryzen 7 and 5.

 

Look at cars, There are many that use the same frame and block, just have a nicer inside and sell for 10k more.

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6 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

raid is just a pain

Yeah, its not great for mass user deployment out of the box. Its not worth it either with the SSDs Apple has been using. 

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

Macs are PCs, your point?

PCs get hot. 

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1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

PCs get hot. 

.. we are not really talking about PCs, i was commenting on how this MAC will thermal throttle due to poor design. 

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1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

.. we are not really talking about PCs, i was commenting on how this MAC will thermal throttle due to poor design. 

You haven't seen it perform, you haven't seen its thermal numbers.  

 

Your claim is void of value. 

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3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

You haven't seen it perform, you haven't seen its thermal numbers.  

 

yup, either Apple just beat Physics or this has poor thermal performance like the new MacBook "Pro" atrocious thermal design. 5942d65a10c47_https-2F2Fblueprint-api-production_s3.amazonaws.com2Fuploads2Fcard2Fimage2F4983432F88d8d336-5c43-4e10-8691-9454d3a377ba.gif.1a11bf4a93eb5b110a49b14e3c65b1ab.gif

 

3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Your claim is void of value. 

we will see 

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6 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

either Apple just beat Physics or this has poor thermal performance like the new MacBook "Pro" atrocious thermal design. 

Didn't realize you were a computer hardware engineer (or had at the very least worked on the iMac Pro Design team) and had tested the thermals of this machine personally. 

 

Oh wait, nobody who doesn't work for Apple has done that. 

 

Make your claims when you have data to back them up, not before. 

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