Swapping to FE good choice?

[ripper101]

I want to water cool my system but it's just too expensive. I saw the A240G kit from EK for $300 and I can afford that. The only problem is I don't have a founders edition 1070 I have an after market one (the water block in the kit is only compatible with FE cards). If I sold my current 1070 for the same price as I'm buying one, would it be a bad idea? I've seen a FE 1070 off of BestBuy for $400 and I could probably sell the aftermarket one I have for that price. Thanks 

[Phentos]

It's not really worth it to do a fancy water cooling setup for something like a 1070. That kind of money is better off spent elsewhere, like a big SSD or saving up for a different upgrade down the road. 

 

 

[WWicket]

There are a few not FE ones listed as compatible and just because they don't have it listed, doesn't mean it actually isn't. https://www.ekwb.com/configurator/waterblock/3831109890769 A lot of unlisted cards will be compatible. I'm not sure if they still do, but it used to be if you took detailed photos of your cards PCB, EK would look at them and tell you if they thought it would be compatible.

[ripper101]

10 minutes ago, WWicket said:

There are a few not FE ones listed as compatible and just because they don't have it listed, doesn't mean it actually isn't. https://www.ekwb.com/configurator/waterblock/3831109890769 A lot of unlisted cards will be compatible. I'm not sure if they still do, but it used to be if you took detailed photos of your cards PCB, EK would look at them and tell you if they thought it would be compatible.

I have a Gigabyte G1 Gaming 1070. I'm not sure where to check to find a photo of the pcb...

[Tiwaz]

yo ucan use a multicompatible block, i dont remember any specific ones, but there good ones that work with any gpu. You just should add small copper/aluminium heatsinks on the VRAM and VRMs but thats not very expensive

[WWicket]

Ah, EK has your card in their compatibility list and the only compatible full-cover block they list is the EK-FC1080, so they have already tried that card with their blocks and most likely it does not work with that kit, as you guessed. 

 

This is what I meant by the PCB of your card, a photo  without the heatshroud so they can see the vram and vrm layout etc.: 

 

[Darkseth]

Which custom 1070 do you have?

 

Honestly.. a small 150 Watt GPU is not really worth the additional Cost for putting it under Water. For the Waterblock alone you could've almost upgraded to a better GTX 1080.

 

And also, if it's too loud: Try undervolting.. it works wonders...

[ripper101]

28 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

Which custom 1070 do you have?

 

Honestly.. a small 150 Watt GPU is not really worth the additional Cost for putting it under Water. For the Waterblock alone you could've almost upgraded to a better GTX 1080.

 

And also, if it's too loud: Try undervolting.. it works wonders...

wouldn't undervolting impede performance? 

 

Do you think it would be worth it if I put an AIO on it for 1/3 of the cost?

[Darkseth]

Depends.

Normal Voltage is 1.05~ Volt around, maybe 1.043 or 1.031 volt, depending on steps, temperature etc etc.

But the usual normal Boost clock (1900-2000, depending on custom model) can mostly be held with 0.9 Volt, or 0.925 or 0.875 ^^

 

For example, i have a GTX 1080 MSI Gaming X. Usual Stock voltage is 1.031~, and a Boost clock or 1963 Mhz (maybe 1 step more or less).

 

I can run this clock speed with 0.93~ Volt or so, which reduces Temperature, and power consumption.

 

If i go down to 0.8 Volt, i can run 1830 Mhz~ (but my Memory is up from 5000 to 5500 Mhz). Yes, overall i might lose 5% fps (which i do NEVER notice/feel, because i have G-Sync). In Witcher for example i have 75 fps instead of 80, or something like that~.

And yes, my 1080 runs slightly underclocked, heavily undervolted. But it consumes only 120-140 Watt, and is still faster than EVERY GTX 1070. Even with 2.1 Ghz, a 1070 would not be faster than my undervolted 1080. ^^

 

But power consumptions goes from 200-220 Watt down to 125-140 Watt. Almost 100 watt less power consumption, and around 10°C less temperatures. And of course, much less fan speed. 

 

Usually the Stock Clock speed can be held with a bit less voltage. And 1.05 Volt are usually enough for 2050-2100 Mhz.

 

 

I don't have a good opinion of AiO. That is, in my Opinion, not a "real water cooler". It's a child toy. See the CPU models  95% of them are not able to beat an Air cooler. Most of them only reach a good temperature, when the Fan runs crazy. What's the point using a Water cooling solution, when the Fan makes you deaf?

 

 

Again: GTX 1070 is a mere 150 watt chip. You do NOT need a water cooling. 

Which Model do you have? What is your problem with it?

What are the temperatures and fan speed?

 

You're better off in selling your 1070, and get a very good Custom 1080 model. Same cost (an AiO wouldn't be cheaper. And if it were cheaper, it wouldn't be good), but more performance.