Xbox Scorpio vs PC

[Moose_e]

Any Pc builds that will out preform Xbox Scorpio?

[FloRolf]

You build is completely off and the XOX (@AshleyAshes am i doing it right?) is actually much stronger.

And afaik it only runs 30fps.

 

 

[PeachyUwUSenpai]

not on high graphics and not stable also not 60 fps

[werto165]

You'll find it extremely hard to match the perf of the scorpio with a pc for a similar price. 

[The Sloth]

 stronger GPU, the Xbox Scorpio has 6 tflops of performance. not really comparable to a PC but performance with better optimization, a console will perform better than PC with the same spec, remember how they made a xbox 360 run gta 5.

 

[The Sloth]

4 minutes ago, werto165 said:

You'll find it extremely hard to match the perf of the scorpio with a pc for a similar price. 

even the ps4 pro is impressive especially on sale, they can go low as 330$( 300$ is the lowest price i ever saw) with a game. 

[WWicket]

Performance on consoles is highly dependent on how well the developers code for the architecture. At this point, everyone is just speculating. Comparison like this is pointless.

[Anghammarad]

Always keeping in mind the state of hardware performance is given and can never be upgraded with a console. 

 

But comparing prices for a system that meets the same performance of the xboxonex, the console wins.

[Mira Yurizaki]

And if you're going to compare a PC to a game console, you need to look at it from an entire system perspective, not a single use case perspective. Like for example, the Xbox One X can play UHD Blu-Rays. The only PC software that can do this is basically Cyberlink's PowerDVD 17 that normally runs for $90 or so. And that's before trying to find a UHD Blu-Ray drive for the PC (regular Blu-Ray drives cannot read UHD Blu-Rays).

 

So when taken as a whole, you will not find a PC that will do as good, if not better, than the XB1X at its asking price.

[dizmo]

No, but at the same time you're comparing two different things. If your sole use is gaming, then an Xbox is perhaps a better choice, if it has all the games you want to play. If you need to do anything else, it's better to get a PC.

16 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

You build is completely off and the XOX (@AshleyAshes am i doing it right?) is actually much stronger.

And afaik it only runs 30fps.

Title dependent. Some run higher.

[dizmo]

6 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

The only PC software that can do this is basically Cyberlink's PowerDVD 17 that normally runs for $90 or so.

Really? I didn't know that. Interesting. So, really, between the OS (from a legit source), that software and a drive you're already at more than half the cost of the Xbox One X and you only have one component.

[Mira Yurizaki]

Just now, dizmo said:

Really? I didn't know that. Interesting. So, really, between the OS (from a legit source), that software and a drive you're already at more than half the cost of the Xbox One X and you only have one component.

Even if you went the system builder route to avoid the cost of the OS, I couldn't find any that shipped with UHD Blu Ray drives.

 

And the only one on the market is $130: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=UHD+Blu+Ray+Drive&N=-1&isNodeId=1

[typographie]

42 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Title dependent. Some run higher.

Probably true, though I think it's very telling that I only heard Microsoft mention framerate when talking about Forza, and then never again. My bet would be that this ends up being like the Xbox One: with just a few exceptions, most 'triple-A' games end up targeting 30 FPS, and possibly not always running that well.

 

This comparison seems… off to me. It's probably true that if all you're considering are theoretical performance metrics, the Xbox probably is quite a good value against a similar PC. But just the ability to make your own decisions about performance vs. visuals completely throws it off. You're probably not trying to play games at 4K on a $500–600 PC anyway. You're going to aim for 1080p with that PC, and get a completely different and more consistent experience. You've also got the option to use a different input method on PC, which [at least to me] is a deal-breaker.

[dizmo]

38 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

Even if you went the system builder route to avoid the cost of the OS, I couldn't find any that shipped with UHD Blu Ray drives.

 

And the only one on the market is $130: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=UHD+Blu+Ray+Drive&N=-1&isNodeId=1

Probably a pretty niche market. I wonder how many people that tout that as an amazing feature over the PS4 actually use it...

[Mira Yurizaki]

6 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Probably a pretty niche market. I wonder how many people that tout that as an amazing feature over the PS4 actually use it...

The movie industry is probably hoping one of these game consoles are going to become the next PS2 in driving the market. But alas, they also seemed to fail to realize Netflix is so much more convenient.

 

Then again you still need a UHD TV to actually consume the content. At least DVDs worked on regular TVs.

[dizmo]

2 minutes ago, typographie said:

-snip-

Yeah, I think the rest will be somewhere around 40. Still not bad to be completely honest. Anyone who figured it'd be 60fps steady in all titles is delirious, and anyone laughing at it should take a look at their own systems, which likely cost several hundred more than the Xbox does and perform similarly.

 

I think they're targeted at different markets, and that's something this forum time and time again fails to realize. There will always be people who just simply prefer to play on a console. I know I do from time to time. I have a few friends who play a few games on there, and I'd buy a console to play with them. Really, at $500 I'd only need to play 50 hours to really feel I'd gotten my moneys worth. I easily play 10x that. A dollar an hour? A bargain.

[dizmo]

17 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

The movie industry is probably hoping one of these game consoles are going to become the next PS2 in driving the market. But alas, they also seemed to fail to realize Netflix is so much more convenient.

 

Then again you still need a UHD TV to actually consume the content. At least DVDs worked on regular TVs.

It would upscale, no?

Netflix is definitely the way to go. I'll never have another cable subscription again.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Moose_e said:

Any Pc builds that will out preform Xbox Scorpio?

if the price is as cheap as it is ($450) with 4k, then its going to be insanely hard to beat for close to the same price. Although FPS cap is where the Xbox One X falters

[PeachyUwUSenpai]

5 hours ago, M.Yurizaki said:

And if you're going to compare a PC to a game console, you need to look at it from an entire system perspective, not a single use case perspective. Like for example, the Xbox One X can play UHD Blu-Rays. The only PC software that can do this is basically Cyberlink's PowerDVD 17 that normally runs for $90 or so. And that's before trying to find a UHD Blu-Ray drive for the PC (regular Blu-Ray drives cannot read UHD Blu-Rays).

 

So when taken as a whole, you will not find a PC that will do as good, if not better, than the XB1X at its asking price.

why play a uhd dvd when you can just buy a digital download of it...... most pcs don't play uhd blu rays because most people don't one gives a shit and digital download is quicker and easier 

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 hour ago, Alaradia said:

why play a uhd dvd when you can just buy a digital download of it...... most pcs don't play uhd blu rays because most people don't one gives a shit and digital download is quicker and easier 

Actually I would argue having a disk is quicker and easier. Pop in a disk, go. Digital download you'll have to wait, deal with connection issues, or have inferior quality because it's been compressed to hell to save bandwidth. And also you cannot exclude a feature from your PC build just because you're not going to use it on the system you're comparing it to, otherwise that's not a fair comparison of systems.

 

Otherwise I could cherry pick things out as well.

[typographie]

9 hours ago, dizmo said:

I think they're targeted at different markets, and that's something this forum time and time again fails to realize. There will always be people who just simply prefer to play on a console.

It looks like the forum fails realize that because that is a conversational brick wall. If you'd simply prefer to play on a console for arbitrary personal reasons, then this thread is irrelevant to you and there's very little discussion to be had. To discuss the OP's question, we have to consider the two as if we consider equally fit for purpose.

 

For what it's worth, I am aware of the irony that my last post was all about my arbitrary personal reasons for refusing to consider a console equally fit for purpose to a PC. Before anyone says anything, good point. 

[dizmo]

20 minutes ago, typographie said:

It looks like the forum fails realize that because that is a conversational brick wall. If you'd simply prefer to play on a console for arbitrary personal reasons, then this thread is irrelevant to you and there's very little discussion to be had. To discuss the OP's question, we have to consider the two as if we consider equally fit for purpose.

That's more pointed at the people who say consoles are pointless. Read my first post before taking something else out of context.