Smallest and cheapest server

[Gamboodle]

I'm making a discord bot and want it to run 24/7. Because I don't want to have my main PC on all the time, and because the bot doesn't need many system resources, what's a small and cheap server that only runs this bot that I could use?

[pxnguinPr3]

Grab an old computer from either your loft, attic, ebay or other.

Put ubuntu on it, maybe make some minor upgrades.

Shove it somewhere with circulation where you cant hear it

and bobs your uncle.

[The Sloth]

 a raspberry PI 3 

[The Sloth]

Just now, pxnguinPr3 said:

Grab an old computer from either your loft, attic, ebay or other.

Put ubuntu on it, maybe make some minor upgrades.

Shove it somewhere with circulation where you cant hear it

and bobs your uncle.

it will consume too much power 

[Gamboodle]

Just now, pxnguinPr3 said:

Grab an old computer from either your loft, attic, ebay or other.

Put ubuntu on it, maybe make some minor upgrades.

Shove it somewhere with circulation where you cant hear it

and bobs your uncle.

sweet, thanks

[pxnguinPr3]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

it will consume too much power 

Sorry, but what?

alsong as you dont get anything to bad, they should be under 100 watts at that pricepoint.

[pxnguinPr3]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

it will consume too much power 

Go watch this for me, then respond after you've watched it. 

 

[Gamboodle]

i think a raspberry pi might work better as it's a bit smaller

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, pxnguinPr3 said:

Go watch this for me, then respond after you've watched it. 

 

 

how is that relevant? we are talking about things that will run 24/7, a 5-watt pi vs something that uses 100 watts. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, pxnguinPr3 said:

Go watch this for me, then respond after you've watched it. 

 

But the Pi uses MUCH less power. A

[pxnguinPr3]

Just now, Grieferrimix said:

i think a raspberry pi might work better as it's a bit smaller

Raspberry pi's have very little ram, very little processing power, very bad internet, saying this, owning one myself.

You cant even stream 360p video due to both internet limitations and proccesing limitations.

[Gamboodle]

Just now, pxnguinPr3 said:

Raspberry pi's have very little ram, very little processing power, very bad internet, saying this, owning one myself.

You cant even stream 360p video due to both internet limitations and proccesing limitations.

this is true, but it's enough to run the bot, thanks for the suggestion though, I have an old optiplex that i can use for stuff like game servers

[The Sloth]

Just now, pxnguinPr3 said:

Raspberry pi's have very little ram, very little processing power, very bad internet, saying this, owning one myself.

You cant even stream 360p video due to both internet limitations and proccesing limitations.

yes you can, you can easily stream 1080p if you know what you are doing, it can easily be a discord bot 

 

- https://github.com/Just-Some-Bots/MusicBot/wiki/Guide-for-Raspbian

http://www.gngrninja.com/code/2017/3/24/python-create-discord-bot-on-raspberry-pi

[The Sloth]

Just now, Grieferrimix said:

this is true, but it's enough to run the bot, thanks for the suggestion though, I have an old optiplex that i can use for stuff like game servers

easily, if you know what you are doing http://www.gngrninja.com/code/2017/3/24/python-create-discord-bot-on-raspberry-pi

[NTDaws]

few sata cables, some hard drive from antartica, a potato, a layer of lettuce, Mayonnaise. a motherboard (my mom finds this offensive)

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[Gamboodle]

I never knew how easy it would be start start an internet fight

[Gamboodle]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

easily, if you know what you are doing http://www.gngrninja.com/code/2017/3/24/python-create-discord-bot-on-raspberry-pi

Thanks! I was looking around for something like this.

[ProjectBox153]

6 minutes ago, pxnguinPr3 said:

Raspberry pi's have very little ram, very little processing power, very bad internet, saying this, owning one myself.

You cant even stream 360p video due to both internet limitations and proccesing limitations.

My Pis can easily handle HD video, so you must have a really old one. But even my Pi 1 model B+ does HD video. But that's not what the OP is trying to do. 

[Jarsky]

9 hours ago, pxnguinPr3 said:

Raspberry pi's have very little ram, very little processing power, very bad internet, saying this, owning one myself.

You cant even stream 360p video due to both internet limitations and proccesing limitations.

 

Even my first gen Raspberry Pi can play 720p on Kodi if its playing DTS (DirectStream), or 1080p if it offloads the DTS audio. The latest raspberry Pi supports VP8/VP9 and partially supports HEVC - and 4 cores + 1GB ram. Additionally the RPi has a 100Mbit ethernet port - which is plenty of bandwidth up to 1080p. 

 

Regardess, this has nothing to do with running a Discord bot. I run PhantomBot which can pretty much run on a potato. 

 

It's also rediculous to suggest getting an 'old computer' when old computers do not have C6/C7 power states, and will consume hefty power on idle. At least 20-30x what the Pi will consume on load. 

[ProjectBox153]

7 hours ago, Jarsky said:

It's also rediculous to suggest getting an 'old computer' when old computers do not have C6/C7 power states, and will consume hefty power on idle. At least 20-30x what the Pi will consume on load. 

Something like a Dell OptiPlex isn't too bad, but a Pi is better. My Dell OptiPlex servers only pull about 240 watts or so at full load, and only one is ever at full load, so it's not too bad. 

[Jarsky]

7 minutes ago, Jamiec1130 said:

Something like a Dell OptiPlex isn't too bad, but a Pi is better. My Dell OptiPlex servers only pull about 240 watts or so at full load, and only one is ever at full load, so it's not too bad. 

 

It's not the *full load* thats the issue - its the average power consumption. 240w is a *lot* of power if it was to be pulling that 24/7. That's the point 100w at idle - is like leaving a 100w lightbulb on 24/7. It's fine for a few hours, but imagine the usage over a year.

 

A 100w lightbulb will use 876kWh over a year. The average price of a kWh in the US is 12cents. That's US$105 extra per year in power.

Now lets say that's a 5w lightbulb (Pi3) - that will be 44kWh over a year. That's $5.28 per year in power.

 

In saying all that though, on the whole OptiPlex's are fairly good on power - but it depends on which one - they can range between 10-50w on idle - thats still between $10-50/year vs $5 - and power costs does seem to be a concern to OP.

 

[Pixel5]

On 6.6.2017 at 10:03 PM, pxnguinPr3 said:

Raspberry pi's have very little ram, very little processing power, very bad internet, saying this, owning one myself.

You cant even stream 360p video due to both internet limitations and proccesing limitations.

you seem to be doing something badly wrong then, my Pi is controlling my 3rd printer and running a webserver that streams a 50mbit stream from the attached camera 24/7 and renders time lapse videos from that camera as well.

 

the LAN port only has 100mbit/s but that more then enough to run a voice server, his internet connection will be slower anyways.