What if Microsoft renamed Windows to Xbox?

[leelaa14]

How would you feel? Seen as how they're releasing the Scorpio soon, which to give credit, for a console is quite powerful. If they really wanted to dominate the games market, they could just rename windows to Xbox. Then they would have the lower end console )og xbox one and s) then the mid range console (scorpio) and higher end xbox devices. (Our rigs.)  Not even sure where I'm going with this, was just something that popped in my head when watching a The Know video.

[flibberdipper]

It would make no sense. People are stupid, and stupid people would think that their "Xbox" could play a new game when in reality its a shitty Acer prebuilt from 2011.

[Shakaza]

I would just scratch my head and wonder, "Why?" Windows as a product name in and of itself carries a lot of weight, even more than Xbox. And there is already a product called "Xbox." That would only serve to add to the confusion.

[leelaa14]

I vaguely remember Phill Spencer saying  that they're taking the Xbox name and making it a platform and not just meaning a console, or something like that.

[leelaa14]

I mean, it doesn't make a lot of sense, but they did go from windows 8 to 10...

[ARikozuM]

They're trying to tie Xbox and Windows together as multimedia devices. Imagine being able to pick up your work (spreadsheets, browser tabs, or movies from your PC or Windows Phone) from your Xbox. If that doesn't sound great, you should seek a psychologist. 

[leelaa14]

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

They're trying to tie Xbox and Windows together as multimedia devices. Imagine being able to pick up your work (spreadsheets, browser tabs, or movies from your PC or Windows Phone) from your Xbox. If that doesn't sound great, you should seek a psychologist. 

This is my point. They are unifying everything, sooner or later they may just think, it all does the same stuff, lets give it all one name. I dunno, just popped in my head and thought it was worth an off topic thread.

[ARikozuM]

2 minutes ago, leelaa14 said:

This is my point. They are unifying everything, sooner or later they may just think, it all does the same stuff, lets give it all one name. I dunno, just popped in my head and thought it was worth an off topic thread.

I doubt they'll unify the brands. Xbox could be their "entertainment" or "living room" Windows machine while Windows is kept to desks and such. 

 

I forgot what company it was, but they dropped their biggest series by merging it with another under the bigger banner and it flopped real hard until they separated it again.

[Seamonster420]

I could see it if microsoft wanted to make an OS that was gaming centric. Not sure what the point would be. The downside of renaming Windows to Xbox in general is that they'd scare away their corporate users many of whom would see using an OS called Xbox as being unprofessional or undignified, even if it was just a rebadged version of windows. CEOs do care about that kind of shit.

[PlayStation 2]

Now if Microsoft went the way of making Xbox its general entertainment division (which it basically is by this point) and Windows its consumer PC division that would make a lot of sense. If anything, the Xbox division would be merged into the Windows division before vice versa.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

I don't see the advantage of renaming the OS you sell to corporations and public institutions after a console. Those are the customers who actually pay for Windows, and they pay big money.

 

I think MS would rather use the Xbox branding as a service withing windows.

[WeeemRCB]

I can see where you're going with that thought, but I's unlikely to happen.

Windows is the software brand where consoles are hardware based and a totally different division within the Microsoft corporate structure

[dalekphalm]

11 hours ago, leelaa14 said:

How would you feel? Seen as how they're releasing the Scorpio soon, which to give credit, for a console is quite powerful. If they really wanted to dominate the games market, they could just rename windows to Xbox. Then they would have the lower end console )og xbox one and s) then the mid range console (scorpio) and higher end xbox devices. (Our rigs.)  Not even sure where I'm going with this, was just something that popped in my head when watching a The Know video.

I would feel, well confused, if nothing else, because renaming Windows to XBOX would make literally no sense at all.

 

Plus, how do you control the fact that 99.99999% of PC's are actually completely shit and far worse than an XBOX One? Most PC's with integrated graphics would barely be able to load AAA level games, let alone play them at decent FPS and graphics quality levels.

[leelaa14]

1 hour ago, dalekphalm said:

I would feel, well confused, if nothing else, because renaming Windows to XBOX would make literally no sense at all.

 

Plus, how do you control the fact that 99.99999% of PC's are actually completely shit and far worse than an XBOX One? Most PC's with integrated graphics would barely be able to load AAA level games, let alone play them at decent FPS and graphics quality levels.

Yes, but xbox is becoming less about games and more about an all in one multimedia package. So in a few years from now, when someone says xbox, you may not just think of games.

[Wolther]

tbh I would think it would be the opposite. xbox everyday I see it turning more and more into a "windows" style console. When you open an app it goes into another window,  a game is also separate windows. 

Obviously combining the names does not make sense; they are separate things to an extend and are very different. It would be like calling an apple an orange because they're both fruit. They taste differently and contain different nutrients from each other. They also grow on different trees. 

[leelaa14]

4 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Then the naming would make no sense.  XBOX = Direct X Box.  It meant that you were getting a direct x experience in a consolized box.  Calling Windows that would defeat the purpose of the name.  <.<

Lol, forgot that was the reason why they called it that haha. Good call.

[leelaa14]

1 minute ago, Wolther said:

tbh I would think it would be the opposite. xbox everyday I see it turning more and more into a "windows" style console. When you open an app it goes into another window,  a game is also separate windows. 

Obviously combining the names does not make sense; they are separate things to an extend and are very different. It would be like calling an apple an orange because they're both fruit. They taste differently and contain different nutrients from each other. They also grow on different trees. 

I wouldn't say they are that different really. Considering MS is going to be releasing (or already have) a version of windows which only uses UWP apps, it's pretty much an xbox at that point as that's all xbox uses.
Add mouse and keyboard functionality to an xbox one and that version of windows and the xbox would be pretty much the same. The only difference really would be two separate names. 

[Wolther]

3 minutes ago, leelaa14 said:

I wouldn't say they are that different really. Considering MS is going to be releasing (or already have) a version of windows which only uses UWP apps, it's pretty much an xbox at that point as that's all xbox uses.
Add mouse and keyboard functionality to an xbox one and that version of windows and the xbox would be pretty much the same. The only difference really would be two separate names. 

Can you link that video you saw? I guess there is a disconnect between what we're talking about. I'm just talking about windows 10 compared to xbox, which I hope you understand where I'm coming from when I say they're really different. xbox to me is just a gaming platform where you can occasionally watch a movie or youtube. Windows I see as a workstation, watch movies, play games, write on your calendar, check email, stream your game, etc. And then being able to do most of those at the same time. Where I see xbox focusing on 1 thing at a time. There would have to be dramatic changes to the xbox software to be identical to the functionality of windows 

[leelaa14]

28 minutes ago, Wolther said:

Can you link that video you saw? I guess there is a disconnect between what we're talking about. I'm just talking about windows 10 compared to xbox, which I hope you understand where I'm coming from when I say they're really different. xbox to me is just a gaming platform where you can occasionally watch a movie or youtube. Windows I see as a workstation, watch movies, play games, write on your calendar, check email, stream your game, etc. And then being able to do most of those at the same time. Where I see xbox focusing on 1 thing at a time. There would have to be dramatic changes to the xbox software to be identical to the functionality of windows 

Video? And yeah, I see where you're coming from. I just think with the way things are going, if they add K&M to xbox then there's not much really to change.

[ARikozuM]

1 hour ago, leelaa14 said:

Video? And yeah, I see where you're coming from. I just think with the way things are going, if they add K&M to xbox then there's not much really to change.

You can currently use a KB with XBox One. It can be with a Logitech Unifying Receiver or USB with USB being easier to do. Have not tried with a wireless Logitech KB and trackpad.

[Drak3]

2 hours ago, leelaa14 said:

Video? And yeah, I see where you're coming from. I just think with the way things are going, if they add K&M to xbox then there's not much really to change.

There's a significant amount to change. Yes, the Xbox One is running an x86 Windows derivative, but it's just that, a Windows derivative. Most features and services you find in Windows 10, aren't in the Windows 10 that the XBOne runs. If they were, the XBOne would run significantly worse than it does.

9 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Have not tried with a wireless Logitech KB and trackpad.

Can't speak on the XBOne's experience with KB+M, but on PS4, mice are basically worthless without a KB+M to DS4 wrapper. So little uses mouse functionality, and outside of games, the UI doesn't benefit from it that much. KB is a god send over using a controller for text input. I assume it's the same for the XBOne though.