Air cooling CPU vs Liquid cooling

[spree]

Hello!

Should I upgrade my current CPU cooler (Be quiet pure rock) to a more "premium" water cooler? 

The reason why I even started to think about upgrading is, because summer is here in sweden and I want my PC, focusing right now on CPU to stay cool.

My question to you experts out there:

- How much lower would an i7 7700k be in temps from my current cooler, to a liquid cooler like this https://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2/258-6905210-59... 

- How much quieter would the liquid cooler be? Or would it be louder? 

- Is it worth the price? My i7 7700k right now is running at around 75c (not overclocked) when playing games for hours, it does not go above 75c, I have made sure using perfect fan curves. But I would of course like it to be lower, but making the fans on the pure rock go faster for lower temps, makes it suuuper loud. So, is it worth it?

-thanks

 

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[themctipers]

as long as it's not over 90c i wouldn't worry about it

lets say you have 70c under load right now, and temps are going to be 10c higher in your room than now (assuming 24c room temps)

then ambient would be 34c, and that means that under load your cpu would be 80c (in a perfect world, it would be +11/12c i believe)

 

water cooling would be better than air cooling, especially with your cooler. but, high end air cooling is competitive with most AIOs (Noctua DH-15)

[Dragonheart]

3 minutes ago, spree said:

Hello!

Should I upgrade my current CPU cooler (Be quiet pure rock) to a more "premium" water cooler? 

The reason why I even started to think about upgrading is, because summer is here in sweden and I want my PC, focusing right now on CPU to stay cool.

My question to you experts out there:

- How much lower would an i7 7700k be in temps from my current cooler, to a liquid cooler like this https://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2/258-6905210-59... 

- How much quieter would the liquid cooler be? Or would it be louder? 

- Is it worth the price? My i7 7700k right now is running at around 75c (not overclocked) when playing games for hours, it does not go above 75c, I have made sure using perfect fan curves. But I would of course like it to be lower, but making the fans on the pure rock go faster for lower temps, makes it suuuper loud. So, is it worth it?

-thanks

 

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I would not upgrade, your air cooler is quite high end, and there will be little performance difference. There are also less parts that can fail in an air cooler. 

[pelark]

29 minutes ago, Dragonheart said:

I would not upgrade, your air cooler is quite high end, and there will be little performance difference. There are also less parts that can fail in an air cooler. 

The pure rock isn't particularily high end, especially not for a 7700k.

You should consider the BeQuiet Dark Rock 3 pro, as it has amazing cooling potential and stays even quieter since you have higher end fans (Silentwings 3 vs purewings 2) and you have 2 of them, which means you can run them at lower RPMs while maintaining low temps.

 

[MkaiL]

32 minutes ago, Dragonheart said:

I would not upgrade, your air cooler is quite high end, and there will be little performance difference. There are also less parts that can fail in an air cooler. 

The pure rock is not really high end, it's one of the cheapest of the Be Quiet coolers and costs less than 30$. It's comparable to the evo 212.

 

For a non-oc I think your temps are quite high, I have the same cooler temporarily on my 6700k and never pass 55C with my fans on silent. Your 7700k probably needs a delid

[spree]

3 hours ago, MkaiL said:

The pure rock is not really high end, it's one of the cheapest of the Be Quiet coolers and costs less than 30$. It's comparable to the evo 212.

 

For a non-oc I think your temps are quite high, I have the same cooler temporarily on my 6700k and never pass 55C with my fans on silent. Your 7700k probably needs a delid

You cant really compare a 6700k and a 7700k, in perfomance yes, but in temps no. The 7700k is a much warmer chip.

[spree]

3 hours ago, pelark said:

The pure rock isn't particularily high end, especially not for a 7700k.

You should consider the BeQuiet Dark Rock 3 pro, as it has amazing cooling potential and stays even quieter since you have higher end fans (Silentwings 3 vs purewings 2) and you have 2 of them, which means you can run them at lower RPMs while maintaining low temps.

 

Looked around everywhere, you can not buy this cooler in sweden. How about this cooler, would it be better than my pure rock one? - https://www.inet.se/produkt/6308772/noctua-nh-u9b-se2#specs - Noctua NH-U9B SE2 It's said to be quieter than my current one

[Dragonheart]

5 hours ago, pelark said:

The pure rock isn't particularily high end, especially not for a 7700k.

You should consider the BeQuiet Dark Rock 3 pro, as it has amazing cooling potential and stays even quieter since you have higher end fans (Silentwings 3 vs purewings 2) and you have 2 of them, which means you can run them at lower RPMs while maintaining low temps.

 

 

5 hours ago, MkaiL said:

The pure rock is not really high end, it's one of the cheapest of the Be Quiet coolers and costs less than 30$. It's comparable to the evo 212.

 

For a non-oc I think your temps are quite high, I have the same cooler temporarily on my 6700k and never pass 55C with my fans on silent. Your 7700k probably needs a delid

yeah, misread that one, thought it was the dark rock 3

[pelark]

8 hours ago, spree said:

Looked around everywhere, you can not buy this cooler in sweden. How about this cooler, would it be better than my pure rock one? - https://www.inet.se/produkt/6308772/noctua-nh-u9b-se2#specs - Noctua NH-U9B SE2 It's said to be quieter than my current one

They have the dark rock 3 pro at komplett...

[Ordinarily_Greater]

12 hours ago, themctipers said:

as long as it's not over 90c i wouldn't worry about it

lets say you have 70c under load right now, and temps are going to be 10c higher in your room than now (assuming 24c room temps)

then ambient would be 34c, and that means that under load your cpu would be 80c (in a perfect world, it would be +11/12c i believe)

 

water cooling would be better than air cooling, especially with your cooler. but, high end air cooling is competitive with most AIOs (Noctua DH-15)

Yeah I agree with you, the dark rock pro 3 is featured on Linus' $1000 Gaming PC Build Anyway

[rogueone]

AIO water coolers aren't really that expensive these days. I understand you can save yourself some dollars with an air cooler but water is cooler. If your worried about your temps then it's not a bad upgrade especially  if your overclocking. 

 

The looks for your puter aren't too bad too. I like AIO's and they do the job.......It's not about being better......it's just a different choice!

[aithos]

On 5/28/2017 at 0:40 PM, MkaiL said:

The pure rock is not really high end, it's one of the cheapest of the Be Quiet coolers and costs less than 30$. It's comparable to the evo 212.

 

For a non-oc I think your temps are quite high, I have the same cooler temporarily on my 6700k and never pass 55C with my fans on silent. Your 7700k probably needs a delid

1) 70 degrees is perfectly acceptable at load.  That's nowhere near the point where he would need to worry about heat.

2) There is no reason whatsoever for someone who isn't aggressively overclocking (with a custom water loop) to de-lid.  Ever.

 

Could the OP get better temps?  Absolutely.  A noctua u14s with two Noctua PWM fans would improve the temps significantly, but why spend $100+ for literally ZERO performance gain.  His CPU isn't throttling and whether you're at 50 degrees or 70 degrees you will see no benefit whatsoever.  Even from a longevity perspective it doesn't make sense, they are rated to operate over their entire lifespan at those temps so unless you're trying to use it for 20 years it's pointless to invent more money UNLESS he wants to overclock.