I7 vs i5

[Skye0lucero]

Iv been told that it i go with a i5 7600k running 1080p games that I will only have problems it i get a 144hrz monitor and I have to keep it on 60hrz thus iv been looking at the 7700k its pricy and if I don't have to get it I'd like to save money I don't run crazy games or stream I play over watch wow planetside world of tanks games like that will I'd it worth it to get the i7 7700k?

[The Sloth]

if you can afford it get a 7700k. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Skye0lucero said:

Iv been told that it i go with a i5 7600k running 1080p games that I will only have problems it i get a 144hrz monitor and I have to keep it on 60hrz thus iv been looking at the 7700k its pricy and if I don't have to get it I'd like to save money I don't run crazy games or stream I play over watch wow planetside world of tanks games like that will I'd it worth it to get the i7 7700k?

what gpu?

[Princess Luna]

You should avoid the i5 at all cost, it is one of the worse cost to performance processors there is on the market right now, for the same pricing as you can use a much cheaper b250 motherboard and stock cooling you should get the locked i7 7700 which is the perfect sweet spot right between.

 

Nonetheless if I were you I would get the ryzen 5 1600 with a b350 motherboard and 3000mhz or higher ram, ram frequency doesn't matter much if you go Intel though.

[Billy_Mays]

2 minutes ago, Skye0lucero said:

Iv been told that it i go with a i5 7600k running 1080p games that I will only have problems it i get a 144hrz monitor and I have to keep it on 60hrz thus iv been looking at the 7700k its pricy and if I don't have to get it I'd like to save money I don't run crazy games or stream I play over watch wow planetside world of tanks games like that will I'd it worth it to get the i7 7700k?

I5 would be good but try ryzen maybe

[KenjiUmino]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

You should avoid the i5 at all cost, it is one of the worse cost to performance processors there is on the market right now ... 

exactly.

 

i5 has lost its right to exist IMO - it's a ripoff and there are plenty of better options on the market right now for the same price. 

[Skye0lucero]

Say price per performance didn't matter from what I understand for gaming it's the hrz that matter not the number of cores so in they wouldn't the 1600 perform worse for gaming compared to the i5 7600k cause it is 3.8 and the 1600 is 3.6 at boost ?

[Vacras]

7 minutes ago, Skye0lucero said:

Say price per performance didn't matter from what I understand for gaming it's the hrz that matter not the number of cores so in they wouldn't the 1600 perform worse for gaming compared to the i5 7600k cause it is 3.8 and the 1600 is 3.6 at boost ?

For gaming the GPU will pretty much always be the limiting factor.

the i5 might achieve slightly higher fps, however we are talking about no noticeable difference.

 

the 1600 however will provide better 1% and 0.1% lows which will be far more noticeable and provide a better experience.

[Jorbee]

15 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

You should avoid the i5 at all cost, it is one of the worse cost to performance processors there is on the market right now, for the same pricing as you can use a much cheaper b250 motherboard and stock cooling you should get the locked i7 7700 which is the perfect sweet spot right between.

 

Nonetheless if I were you I would get the ryzen 5 1600 with a b350 motherboard and 3000mhz or higher ram, ram frequency doesn't matter much if you go Intel though.

whats wrong with the i5, other reliable sources say its one of the best gaming cpu's

[Skye0lucero]

Im worried my last cpu was a 6700k 4.0 with a gtx 970 it ran everything fine 

 

 

If I go with a locked 7700 and a 1060 

Will I be worse off?

[Skye0lucero]

2 minutes ago, Jorbee said:

whats wrong with the i5, other reliable sources say its one of the best gaming cpu's

That's what I heard as well 

[Vacras]

2 minutes ago, Skye0lucero said:

Im worried my last cpu was a 6700k 4.0 with a gtx 970 it ran everything fine 

 

 

If I go with a locked 7700 and a 1060 

Will I be worse off?

Like I said above gaming performance will mostly be dependent on your graphicscard. 

As far as I know the 1060 should be slightly faster than a 970 so you will see better performance.

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, Skye0lucero said:

Im worried my last cpu was a 6700k 4.0 with a gtx 970 it ran everything fine 

 

 

If I go with a locked 7700 and a 1060 

Will I be worse off?

If you already have a 6700k you'd be having a downgrade with the i5 7600k to begin with

[Princess Luna]

13 minutes ago, Skye0lucero said:

1600 perform worse for gaming compared to the i5 7600k cause it is 3.8 and the 1600 is 3.6 at boost ?

The 1600 has 6 extra threads in comparison to the i5 and games are finally using such extra threads, the whole purpose of the new APIs DX12 and Vulkan is to increase how well games can multi-thread making the gaming experience better on the 1600 as you'll have less stutter, better minimums and over all more smoothness, even fps average depending on the title will be superior on the 1600 mainly the newer ones.

[jjohnthedon1]

If you don't already have the i5 get a 1600 and clock it to 4ghz 

its performace is the same in gaming as my 4790k For much cheeper than a 7700k

 

If you still have the 6700k and the gtx 970 get a new gpu and you will run all of thoes games at 144hz 1080p no worries 

[Skye0lucero]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

If you already have a 6700k you'd be having a downgrade with the i5 7600k to begin with

Would a locked 7700 be an upgrade from a 6700k running stock clock I don't plan on over clocking this cpu 

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Skye0lucero said:

Say price per performance didn't matter from what I understand for gaming it's the hrz that matter not the number of cores so in they wouldn't the 1600 perform worse for gaming compared to the i5 7600k cause it is 3.8 and the 1600 is 3.6 at boost ?

They are different generation/architechture you can't compare for example a 4 Wheel Honda with a 4 Wheel Lambo

[Guest]

Just now, Skye0lucero said:

Would a locked 7700 be an upgrade from a 6700k running stock clock I don't plan on over clocking this cpu 

No it's a downgrade. Since base clock of 7700 is lower (3.6 vs 4.0). We can compare clock speed in this situation since they are near same architecture

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Skye0lucero said:

Would a locked 7700 be an upgrade from a 6700k running stock clock I don't plan on over clocking this cpu 

Such a small one you'd be wasting money frankly... you should wait for Canon Lake 10nm processors to start thinking about the need to upgrade your CPU, you should right now keep it and use the money you have to upgrade this GTX 970 to a GTX 1080 or even GTX 1080ti to achieve better performance, then again keep in mind your monitor display takes a big role in having you notice any difference in graphical quality as well.

[jjohnthedon1]

5 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

The 1600 has 6 extra threads in comparison to the i5 and games are finally using such extra threads, the whole purpose of the new APIs DX12 and Vulkan is to increase how well games can multi-thread making the gaming experience better on the 1600 as you'll have less stutter, better minimums and over all more smoothness, even fps average depending on the title will be superior on the 1600 mainly the newer ones.

8 extra threads 

[Princess Luna]

Just now, jjohnthedon1 said:

8 extra threads 

was correcting my bad math there really necessary?

[jjohnthedon1]

Stop being a pussy and oc it

if you don't want to mess with voltage you will still hit 4.7/4.6 at stock and it will be fine and still in watenty as long as you don't tell them 

[jjohnthedon1]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

was correcting my bad math there really necessary?

8 is better than 6  so yes  

[aisle9]

17 minutes ago, Jorbee said:

whats wrong with the i5, other reliable sources say its one of the best gaming cpu's

There's nothing "wrong" with the i5. It's still a very capable CPU, and if you're upgrading processors on an Intel motherboard, the i5 is still a great choice for doing so.

 

If you're building from scratch, Ryzen 5 is a better value overall. It's not quite as strong of a gamer, but the difference is not huge. It's a far better editing/rendering/everything else processor at a much more favorable price point vs. a full i5 build.

[aisle9]

14 minutes ago, Skye0lucero said:

Would a locked 7700 be an upgrade from a 6700k running stock clock I don't plan on over clocking this cpu 

No. Clock for clock, Skylake and Kaby Lake are the exact same thing. A locked 7700 is actually a downgrade from a 6700K--and a very expensive one, at that. If you're currently on Haswell, Broadwell (why?) or Skylake--hell, even a strong Ivy Bridge CPU--there is absolutely no reason to upgrade to Kaby Lake unless you're going for the Pentium family.