My First Build

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, Haeking said:

I wasnt even trying to argue man, this guy is just a force. I made a recommendation for his budget, and I stuck by it. I didnt call him out on his build and he's been nothing but rude to others. That is all.

 

your build is not as good as the Pentium build, buying older crappy FM cpu is a waste of money. 

[Haeking]

Just now, NoobAdrian said:

lol, sorry for creating chaos in this forum

Not your fault, just nerds in an environment that is always conflicting, the idea of whose right and whose wrong. Save your money, the bigger the budget the better since things get replaced over time.

[EasonIDontKnowAnything]

Just now, Aereldor said:

Please, you have no reason to apologize. I'm sorry I didn't notify the moderators sooner, and I have now.

I hope this gets cleaned up soon so we can get back to recommending parts to you.

Again DDR3 is still relevant. 

[Aereldor]

3 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

why is there an argument? 

Noticed an Athlon x4 845 + Shit Logisys PSU argument, and responded about why it was bad. Recommender lost it.

[Haeking]

I know I was making a second build before an argument bloomed, one for amd the other for intel.

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

your build is not as good as the Pentium build, buying older crappy FM cpu is a waste of money. 

 

[The Sloth]

Just now, Haeking said:

I know I was making a second build before an argument bloomed, one for amd the other for intel.

 

 

not worth it, OP should go for the Pentium unless OP can save up for a ryzen chip, only good AMD cpus are ryzen chips. 

[Aereldor]

3 minutes ago, EasonIDontKnowAnything said:

Again DDR3 is still relevant. 

Saying it doesn't make it true.

 

Name one modern platform that still uses DDR3 RAM. 

Skylake (1151)- DDR4
Kabylake (1151)- DDR4
Ryzen- DDR4

Intel's LGA 2011-v3 platform: DDR4

 

These are all the modern CPU series', and none of them use DDR3 RAM! Skylake's cheapest motherboards use it, but that just gimps them, and nobody recommends it- not even Intel. The last platform that made DDR3 relevant was LGA 1150- from 2013. LGA 1150 is outdated. It's two generations behind. The last architecture for it was Broadwell. Skylake and Kabylake both use LGA 1151 and DDR4, and Coffee Lake will too. So does Ryzen. LGA 2011-v3 has always used DDR4.

Your argument is indefensible.

[EasonIDontKnowAnything]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

not worth it, OP should go for the Pentium unless OP can save up for a ryzen chip, only good AMD cpus are ryzen chips. 

*ther are others let's not be so mean to the once great budget amd chips

[EasonIDontKnowAnything]

Just now, Aereldor said:

Saying it doesn't make it true.

 

Name one modern platform that still uses DDR3 RAM. 

Skylake (1151)- DDR4
Kabylake (1151)- DDR4
Ryzen- DDR4

Intel's LGA 2011-v3 platform: DDR4

 

These are all the modern CPU series', and none of them use DDR3 RAM! Skylake's cheapest motherboards use it, but that just gimps them, and nobody recommends it- not even Intel. The last platform that made DDR3 relevant was LGA 1150- from 2013

Doesn't have to be bloody modern.

[Haeking]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

not worth it, OP should go for the Pentium unless OP can save up for a ryzen chip, only good AMD cpus are ryzen chips. 

I can understand, its why I asked about his budget in the first place, it was the first thing to come to mind. Is buying a $500 pc worth the cost. I know it isnt and even said in the midst it'd be better to save up.

[Aereldor]

Just now, EasonIDontKnowAnything said:

Doesn't have to be bloody modern.

Well, then DDR is still relevant. DDR2 is still relevant. IDE is still relevant. The fact is, when recommending new parts, it's asinine to recommend old hardware, as you'll always get less performance for the same price.

[EasonIDontKnowAnything]

1 minute ago, Haeking said:

I can understand, its why I asked about his budget in the first place, it was the first thing to come to mind. Is buying a $500 pc worth the cost. I know it isnt and even said in the midst it'd be better to save up.

500CAD is 350USD quite sad.

[NoobAdrian]

i like how my first forum in this site turned into a whole argument (I didnt mean it to happen)

 

[Haeking]

Just now, NoobAdrian said:

i like how my first forum in this site turned into a whole argument (I didnt mean it to happen)

 

Hey you aren't in the wrong no need to apologize

[Aereldor]

9 minutes ago, NoobAdrian said:

I think it would be more beneficial if my parents can use this computer and i could just build my own

 

Yeah, which is why my $500 build doesn't count on any salvaging. Just pasting it here.

Unless you want to wait and save up a little more. Ryzen 3 will be here soon and will likely offer quad-cores at about $100.
 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($80.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($74.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($66.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.75 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Mini Video Card  ($142.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Case: Rosewill - FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Antec - Basiq 350W ATX Power Supply  ($44.50 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $499.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-11 13:55 EDT-0400

 

[NoobAdrian]

1 hour ago, Aereldor said:

Yeah, which is why my $500 build doesn't count on any salvaging. Just pasting it here.

Unless you want to wait and save up a little more. Ryzen 3 will be here soon and will likely offer quad-cores at about $100.
 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($80.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($74.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($66.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.75 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Mini Video Card  ($142.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Case: Rosewill - FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Antec - Basiq 350W ATX Power Supply  ($44.50 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $499.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-11 13:55 EDT-0400

 

Thanks

[Aereldor]

Just now, NoobAdrian said:

Thanks

Cheers. Sorry it got buried when I first posted it.

[DocSwag]

42 minutes ago, Haeking said:

Dude, you gotta get off you high tier super float your boat octane horse. He is trying to game for a while and save his money to most likely upgrade again, with time comes money, he needs something he can scrape by with. And if he does upgrade the only parts that he is spending a little extra on is a ryzen mobo, cpu, and then some ram. Things take time, and patience not like you who are rude and pushy asf.

A G4560 will literally destroy an 845. I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Haeking]

Just now, DocSwag said:

A G4560 will literally destroy an 845. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Not the time, I made one amd build and was in the middle of an intel one before this started, you're a bit late but thanks 

[DocSwag]

Just now, Haeking said:

Not the time, I made one amd build and was in the middle of an intel one before this started, you're a bit late but thanks 

 

 

Still though, it's not good to do that, when one build destroys the other. Just saying.

 

Ya could give OP bad ideas that an X845 is worth the money.

[Haeking]

Just now, DocSwag said:

 

 

Still though, it's not good to do that, when one build destroys the other. Just saying.

 

Ya could give OP bad ideas that an X845 is worth the money.

I get the idea, should probably just post one build instead of giving the variety of amd then intel 

[Energycore]

1 hour ago, EasonIDontKnowAnything said:

Haha not every fucking shite psu will explode. 

Nah they'll only mostly just kill your computer after a while. Exploding is a worst case scenario

[Aereldor]

1 hour ago, Haeking said:

I get the idea, should probably just post one build instead of giving the variety of amd then intel 

No, you should post both options only if both companies make good offerings at the same price point. The Ryzen 1700 and the 7700k are priced the same but better at different things. If you plan to edit videos or stream or do any other CPU-heavy productivity work, the Ryzen 1700 will absolutely smash the 7700k. Compare Cinebench for a pretty pure multi-threaded performance comparison. But if you're a pure gamer, a 7700k will outperform a 1700 right now, as games still vastly prefer single-threaded performance, and Intel has supremacy over that.

 

What you did here today was post a CPU that doesn't even begin to compare to Intel's similarly priced option, and got really angry at me when I pointed that out. I wouldn't have criticized anyone for suggesting a Ryzen 1400 over a Core i5 6500 or a Ryzen 1700 over a Core i7 7700k, but AMD has nothing that competes with the G4560, and to suggest so is indefensible. They're nowhere close in benchmarks, even weak GPUs.