6800K or 1700 for gaming, video editing, and streaming combined

[daweakling]

You probably saw this poll already but between an 1800X or 6800K. After doing some research, I found that an overclocked 1700X can match or even out perform a overclocked 1800X. People who purchase the 1800X are diehard AMD fans who want to support AMDs accomplishment.  I decided to save a little bit of money and purchase the 1700X instead of the 1800X, but I still have the 6800K in mind. Well I started a new one between the 1700X and 6800K. The CPUs are priced exactly the same.

 

My work load is:

 

50% gaming

20% streaming

30% video editing for YouTube

[79wjd]

Still a 1700, since it's just as fast as a 1700x but much cheaper. 

[grimreeper132]

neither an overclocked R7 1700 will be just as good as a 1700X and brillant for editing and streaming, and no issues with speed for games (5fps less max, excpet for 1080p where you get 150fps+ anyways)

[Orangeator]

Get the 1700.

[DocSwag]

1700, assuming you're not using or are barely gonna use lightroom or photoshop.

[DocSwag]

OP, what is your budget so that I can put a build together?

[Orangeator]

4 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

1700, assuming you're not using or are barely gonna use lightroom or photoshop.

My FX-8320 can run Photoshop just fine. Why on earth could a 1700 not run it? Lol.

[Gameking002]

i would probably get the 1700 because of the multiple cores for streaming and editing. and it still performs well in gaming

[grimreeper132]

6 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

1700, assuming you're not using or are barely gonna use lightroom or photoshop.

nah, a 1700 is just fine, it edits videos and photos just fine with no issues, the 7700K might be a little faster in some cases with those programmes, but the 1700 isn't too much slower, and the 1700 is vastly superior in the streaming tasks and is near enough on par gaming wise, without the optimisations I can safely say will be coming

[daweakling]

7 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

OP, what is your budget so that I can put a build together?

I am building a PC in steps but my budget is around $1000-$1200. Right now I am picking platforms. Microcenter has a 1700 for $320 and I get an additional $100 OFF if I bundle it with a motherboard. I will later invest into a graphics card and M.2 and other components. 

[daweakling]

So I can pretty much get a 1700 and motherboard for under $300. 

 

 

EDIT: Wait nevermind I was wrong $400. 

[Princess Luna]

I would pick even the 1600 over the 6800k, same performance for less than half the price? it's a no brainer to me.

 

Ryzen all the way.

[Orangeator]

1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

nah, a 1700 is just fine, it edits videos and photos just fine with no issues, the 7700K might be a little faster in some cases with those programmes, but the 1700 isn't too much slower, and the 1700 is vastly superior in the streaming tasks and is near enough on par gaming wise, without the optimisations I can safely say will be coming

Yeah this is the thing about the 1700 v 7700k... The 7700k performs marginally better in low core usage applications. But any application that can use multi-threading, the 1700 absolutely kicks the 7700k's ass. Like we are talking double the performance when both CPU's are at 100% load.

[Gameking002]

6 minutes ago, Orangeator said:

My FX-8320 can run Photoshop just fine. Why on earth could a 1700 not run it? Lol.

to say more on this, i got an i5-750. and it can run photoshop fine as well

[daweakling]

1 minute ago, Orangeator said:

Yeah this is the thing about the 1700 v 7700k... The 7700k performs marginally better in low core usage applications. But any application that can use multi-threading, the 1700 absolutely kicks the 7700k's ass. Like we are talking double the performance when both CPU's are at 100% load.

And this is the main reason why I am stuck between the two. Ryzen is very good at workstation tasks and multicore, but the 6800K performs a few FPS better in games. Intel has the edge for instructions per clock over Ryzen. 

[Gameking002]

i think that difference will be very small

and i dont know if the very few fps are worth it

[grimreeper132]

Just now, Orangeator said:

Yeah this is the thing about the 1700 v 7700k... The 7700k performs marginally better in low core usage applications. But any application that can use multi-threading, the 1700 absolutely kicks the 7700k's ass. Like we are talking double the performance when both CPU's are at 100% load.

yep that is it, ryzen is fucking amazing, I agree, they are not the fastest CPUs, but it's there price that makes them good

 

[DocSwag]

7 minutes ago, Orangeator said:

My FX-8320 can run Photoshop just fine. Why on earth could a 1700 not run it? Lol.

Pretty sure in certain parts there is a difference, such as applying affects, merging stuff, etc.

3 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

nah, a 1700 is just fine, it edits videos and photos just fine with no issues, the 7700K might be a little faster in some cases with those programmes, but the 1700 isn't too much slower, and the 1700 is vastly superior in the streaming tasks and is near enough on par gaming wise, without the optimisations I can safely say will be coming

Wasn't gonna recommend 7700k  

3 minutes ago, sebastiansulb said:

I am building a PC in steps but my budget is around $1000-$1200. Right now I am picking platforms. Microcenter has a 1700 for $320 and I get an additional $100 OFF if I bundle it with a motherboard. I will later invest into a graphics card and M.2 and other components. 

I'll see what I can do  

[grimreeper132]

Just now, DocSwag said:

Wasn't gonna recommend 7700k  

good

[Orangeator]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Pretty sure in certain parts there is a difference, such as applying affects, merging stuff, etc.

Yes but I am 99% sure Photoshop utilizes all cores. I know it can use 8 threads that is for certain. So I am pretty sure it can use 16, and if that's the case, then the 1700 would blow the 7700k out of the water in that regard.

[DocSwag]

Just now, Orangeator said:

Yes but I am 99% sure Photoshop utilizes all cores. I know it can use 8 threads that is for certain. So I am pretty sure it can use 16, and if that's the case, then the 1700 would blow the 7700k out of the water in that regard.

Not true, it's actually a bit more single threaded.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Photoshop-CC-2017-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-1800X-Performance-907/

[grimreeper132]

1 minute ago, Orangeator said:

Yes but I am 99% sure Photoshop utilizes all cores. I know it can use 8 threads that is for certain. So I am pretty sure it can use 16, and if that's the case, then the 1700 would blow the 7700k out of the water in that regard.

aye, photoshops a strange one, it is meant to be a multi-threaded task which they have turned into a single-threaded one, as they are special little children

[Orangeator]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Not true, it's actually a bit more single threaded.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Photoshop-CC-2017-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-1800X-Performance-907/

That is interesting, because I have done a few heavy hitting loads in Photoshop and it used all 8 threads of my CPU. I checked task manager.

[DocSwag]

A list making use of the $100 off for the 1700x when bought from micro center.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - RYZEN 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.99) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($98.29 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Flare X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($98.88 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($127.98 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($369.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1176.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, Orangeator said:

That is interesting, because I have done a few heavy hitting loads in Photoshop and it used all 8 threads of my CPU. I checked task manager.

It might use all 8, but that doesn't mean it's using all 8 efficiently