Ryzen 7

[apaar123]

How much difference Is there in the performance of all 3 models of ryzen 7 after overclocking. I will be doing gaming,editing,rendering and streaming too. How much effect will the performance make when going to higher model?

[Simon771]

Get R7 1700, overclock to 4GHz and you are golden.

Difference won't be more than 5% or maybe 10% at best.

 

But what's the price difference? R7 1700 is 320€, R7 1700X is 390€, and R7 1800X is 510€.

A lot more than just 5-10% difference in price.

 

 

[pbx2]

the 1700x and 1800x are basically pre overclocked 1700s. Waste of money if you are going to OC.

[apaar123]

4 minutes ago, pbx2 said:

the 1700x and 1800x are basically pre overclocked 1700s. Waste of money if you are going to OC.

Even if I buy 1800x I will be oc it 

[pbx2]

Just now, apaar123 said:

Even if I buy 1800x I will be oc it 

But its pre overclocked, and has XFR which you will not be using. Buy the 1700 and OC it and it will beat up the 1700x and 1800x in terms of price to performance.

[genexis_x]

3 minutes ago, apaar123 said:

Even if I buy 1800x I will be oc it 

But bear in mind that it's way expensive than 1700

 

Even an OCed 1800X is better than OCed 1700, the price difference is not worth the performance increase.

[Simon771]

1 minute ago, apaar123 said:

Even if I buy 1800x I will be oc it 

Just to let you know ... R7 1800X does have 4GHz out of the box, but not on all cores.

When you OC all those 3 chips to the limit, you won't see more than 10% difference. If even that much.

Those are all the same chips, just clocked a bit differently.

 

I don't know why would anyone want to waste money on 1800X when you can get same performance with 1700 for 60% lower price.

[apaar123]

3 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

Just to let you know ... R7 1800X does have 4GHz out of the box, but not on all cores.

When you OC all those 3 chips to the limit, you won't see more than 10% difference. If even that much.

Those are all the same chips, just clocked a bit differently.

 

I don't know why would anyone want to waste money on 1800X when you can get same performance with 1700 for 60% lower price.

Just 10% performance increase. That's weird

[Ordinarily_Greater]

10 minutes ago, pbx2 said:

But its pre overclocked, and has XFR which you will not be using. Buy the 1700 and OC it and it will beat up the 1700x and 1800x in terms of price to performance.

Well, the 1700 is basically a downclocked 1800X right?

[Simon771]

2 minutes ago, apaar123 said:

Just 10% performance increase. That's weird

And probbably not even that. Like I said, all are the same chips in the end. So it will depend on your luck.

 

You can get R7 1700 that will be able to OC to 4,1 or 4,2GHz on all cores stable, and you can get R7 1800X that just won't be able to run above 3,9GHz on all cores. It's silicon lottery.

 

In general you can expect any R7 to run at 3,8GHz for sure, 3,9GHz most likely, 4,0GHz somewhat max. Anything over 4GHz is just like 2200MHz on Pascal core.

 

If you ask me difference is acctually around 5% at best, but I said 10% for the sake of other users who might not agree.

 

And yes that whole R7 lineup is weird. Not sure why they are selling 1800X for 60% higher price, when we can OC 1700 to the same limit and get same results. But I don't care about that, I'm just glad they aren't being so smart

[Ordinarily_Greater]

2 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

And probbably not even that. Like I said, all are the same chips in the end. So it will depend on your luck.

 

You can get R7 1700 that will be able to OC to 4,1 or 4,2GHz on all cores stable, and you can get R7 1800X that just won't be able to run above 3,9GHz on all cores. It's silicon lottery.

 

In general you can expect any R7 to run at 3,8GHz for sure, 3,9GHz most likely, 4,0GHz somewhat max. Anything over 4GHz is just like 2200MHz on Pascal core.

 

If you ask me difference is acctually around 5% at best, but I said 10% for the sake of other users who might not agree.

 

And yes that whole R7 lineup is weird. Not sure why they are selling 1800X for 60% higher price, when we can OC 1700 to the same limit and get same results. But I don't care about that, I'm just glad they aren't being so smart

So it's like test your luck on a CPU?

[Princess Luna]

I only bought the 1800x but it was at the 1700 price tag due to pre-sale discount really... you should stick to the 1700

[apaar123]

6 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

And probbably not even that. Like I said, all are the same chips in the end. So it will depend on your luck.

 

You can get R7 1700 that will be able to OC to 4,1 or 4,2GHz on all cores stable, and you can get R7 1800X that just won't be able to run above 3,9GHz on all cores. It's silicon lottery.

 

In general you can expect any R7 to run at 3,8GHz for sure, 3,9GHz most likely, 4,0GHz somewhat max. Anything over 4GHz is just like 2200MHz on Pascal core.

 

If you ask me difference is acctually around 5% at best, but I said 10% for the sake of other users who might not agree.

 

And yes that whole R7 lineup is weird. Not sure why they are selling 1800X for 60% higher price, when we can OC 1700 to the same limit and get same results. But I don't care about that, I'm just glad they aren't being so smart

Yeah good for us

[Simon771]

6 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

So it's like test your luck on a CPU?

Yeah pretty much. In worst case your 1700 will be 10% slower than 1800X. That's the worst case.

Best case ... your 1700 will be acctually better than 1800X.

Normal case: about the same performance.

[Ordinarily_Greater]

7 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

Yeah pretty much. In worst case your 1700 will be 10% slower than 1800X. That's the worst case.

Best case ... your 1700 will be acctually better than 1800X.

Normal case: about the same performance.

So like the 1700X should be the final product of R7 but I and you don't know why 1800X exists lol

[DrMikeNZ]

Just now, Simon771 said:

Yeah pretty much. In worst case your 1700 will be 10% slower than 1800X. That's the worst case.

Best case ... your 1700 will be acctually better than 1800X.

Normal case: about the same performance.

Worst case would be 10% slower because you forgot to overclock the 1700 .

 

1 minute ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

So like the 1700X should be the final product of R7 but I and you don't know why 1800X exists lol

AMD needs to make money, and by buying an 1800X you are making a statement that you want to financially support AMD to ensure that competition remains in the CPU and GPU markets.

[Ordinarily_Greater]

1 minute ago, DrMikeNZ said:

Worst case would be 10% slower because you forgot to overclock the 1700 .

 

AMD needs to make money, and by buying an 1800X you are making a statement that you want to financially support AMD to ensure that competition remains in the CPU and GPU markets.

Well AMD, I guess it's the time to buy...

1700 for now

Ba dum tshh

[pbx2]

1 hour ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

Well, the 1700 is basically a downclocked 1800X right?

Yeah. w/o XFR also.

[jjohnthedon1]

2 hours ago, ZM Fong said:

But bear in mind that it's way expensive than 1700

 

Even an OCed 1800X is better than OCed 1700, the price difference is not worth the performance increase.

no its not if borh are oced to 4 ghz they perform exaterly the same lol