Optane Memory?

[elai]

So I am planning to get Optane Memory,

 

I have a SSD and a HDD.

Even though I have a SSD, will it still work since I have an HDD?

- Elai 

[The Sloth]

not worth getting, get an another ssd or m2. 

[XXVG]

Yes it would but I am not sure how much performance benefit you would see. Unless you are hoping that optane would just work for your hdd which i am not sure if it works that way. Might as well get another ssd.

[elai]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

not worth getting, get an another ssd or m2. 

Im not spending over $100 for a little amount of storage.
I would rather have a Optane just to benefit me

[kirashi]

3 minutes ago, elai said:

So I am planning to get Optane Memory,

Even though I have a SSD, will it still work since I have an HDD?

If you're SSD is your Boot drive and you've got most of your common programs (Chrome, Discord, Office, Adobe Creative Cloud, etc.) then there's no point in spending money on an Optane module. You'd be better off buying a secondary SSD for games and large personal files (like say a photo library in Adobe Lightroom) than buying into Optane at this point.

[The Sloth]

Just now, elai said:

I would rather have a Optane just to benefit me

no benefit for you. 

[swizeus]

IMO, as long as you frequently use data from HDD often enough, optane will kick in. Will it work? Yes, Is it worth it? No. You might as well buy another 128GB SSD just for your games, instead of using architecture constraint optane

[elai]

4 minutes ago, swizeus said:

IMO, as long as you frequently use data from HDD often enough, optane will kick in. Will it work? Yes, Is it worth it? No. You might as well buy another 128GB SSD just for your games, instead of using architecture constraint optane

Yeah all my games are in my hdd. I play P3d with lots of addons, it takes around 120gb of storage, and lets just say loading times are currently 4mins for that game

[ARikozuM]

It depends on how often you'll be playing a few games. If you're playing nothing but GTAV, yes. If you're playing 5 games in the same amount of time each, no since the caching won't know what to cache.

[Mira Yurizaki]

2 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

It depends on how often you'll be playing a few games. If you're playing nothing but GTAV, yes. If you're playing 5 games in the same amount of time each, no since the caching won't know what to cache.

Well, it should, but performance will be hit and miss.

[ARikozuM]

6 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

Well, it should, but performance will be hit and miss.

It should, but I'm talking about where the disk(?) has to cache more than what it can to perform well enough to be useful. 

[swizeus]

6 minutes ago, elai said:

Yeah all my games are in my hdd. I play P3d with lots of addons, it takes around 120gb of storage, and lets just say loading times are currently 4mins for that game

Fair enough, you might want to see LMG's video on Optane to get the feel, how much performance increase you will get for the buck you spend. What I get from the video, Optane started to kick in on the third run, but then again the test run consecutively - I Presume - (Well, it should be, as they are doing nothing other than testing on that machine, but then they don't test retainability, what happen if you run one program 10 times, switch to other program 10x and get back to it). If 128GB SSD deem not worth for you and getting 256GB SSD something you don't want to shell out, Optane might just be for you Intel just got a spot on market

 

[mariushm]

I'd say just buy DDR4 memory, up to 64 GB or whatever the motherboard allows. They'd have much better resale value compared to a used 32-64 GB Octane card and they achieve the same thing. 

 

The operating system will automatically use the memory you don't use to cache files as they're read from the hard drives. So you'll get one slow load, and then the files will most likely already be cached in RAM in those 40-50 GB of unused memory.

The big deal about optane is that when you turn off the computer, the octane card will "remember" what was cached, while computer ram information is lost when power goes out.. that's pretty much the only difference.

 

Also, depending on how the game is arranged on the disk, you may be able to do some tricks, like storing most of the game content on SSD (the most often accessed stuff or whatever loads every time) and less often accessed stuff or streamed stuff (like background music for example) you could leave on the mechanical hard drive and create a virtual link between the drives  - the game won't know the difference.

 

For example, let's say the game is installed on the SSD at the location C:\Games\P3D\   and there's the folders Maps and Audio in the folder, and you want the Audio folder to the mechanical drive.

So you just create D:\Games\P3D\ and move the audio folder there.

Now, you can download SysInternals Suite from Microsoft : https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb842062.aspx and extract the contents somewhere on your computer, because you want to use an utility called MKLink from that collection of utilities to create that virtual connection between hard drives.

You right click in Windows Explorer in an empty space where you extracted the files from the SysInternals Suite package and you should have an option to open a command prompt. Once you opened it, you can simply enter :

 

mklink  /d C:\games\P3D\Audio D:\games\P3D\Audio

 

So now whenever the game or anything tries to read or write from the Audio folder in C: drive, it actually performs those operations in the Audio folder on the D: drive.