G.Skill Trident Z RGB compatible with Ryzen?

[done12many2]

11 hours ago, ProjectOverkill said:

A few tweaks specially if I could get my ram to run at 3200mhz bet I could take down that 1700 dollar CPU.

 

Here is CPUZ bench compared to a 6950X.

22 minutes ago, ProjectOverkill said:

A 6950x also costs ~1650 where the 1800x costs ~450. 

 

Also for the Blue team that loves the cinebench end all benchmark.

 

https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/cases/091216intelcmpt.pdf

 

I think you're missing the bigger point.  You tried to compare your CPU against a 6950x using a CPUz benchmark.  Hardly a metric taken seriously by anyone.  

 

I'm by no means justifying the expense of a 6950x, but if your a serious benchmarker or power user that needs the 40+ PCIe lanes (CPU and chipset) to run 3 or 4 Nvidia GPUs, while retaining very high multi-threaded performance, then the 6950x fits the bill.

 

These guys come to mind:

 

http://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/fire+strike+3dmark+score+performance+preset/version+1.1

 

http://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/

 

 

Providing a CPUz benchmark comparing your overclocked chip to that of a stock clocked chip 6950x isn't exactly "taking down that 1700 dollar CPU".

 

 

[done12many2]

dup

 

[ProjectOverkill]

2 hours ago, done12many2 said:

 

I think you're missing the bigger point.  You tried to compare your CPU against a 6950x using a CPUz benchmark.  Hardly a metric taken seriously by anyone.  

 

I'm by no means justifying the expense of a 6950x, but if your a serious benchmarker or power user that needs the 40+ PCIe lanes (CPU and chipset) to run 3 or 4 Nvidia GPUs, while retaining very high multi-threaded performance, then the 6950x fits the bill.

 

These guys come to mind:

 

http://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/fire+strike+3dmark+score+performance+preset/version+1.1

 

http://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/

 

 

Providing a CPUz benchmark comparing your overclocked chip to that of a stock clocked chip 6950x isn't exactly "taking down that 1700 dollar CPU".

 

 

 

Intel boys triggered.

 

A benchmark is just something that is ran exactly the same each time. But let's ignore a cpuz benchmark then. 

 

A score of 1756 at 500 dollars is 3.52 point/dollar At a stock speeds it was 1604. Or 3.2 point/dollar. 

 

A 6950x stock according to http://www.anandtech.com/show/10337/the-intel-broadwell-e-review-core-i7-6950x-6900k-6850k-and-6800k-tested-up-to-10-cores/6

scored 1829. For a 1.07 point/dollar.

 

A 6900k which is a better comparison (8 core 16 thread) scored 1547. Or 1.4 point/dollar. 

 

Overclock a 6950x and say get a score of 3000. That's still 1.76 point/dollar. 

 

Overclock a 6900k say it can hit 2300. Or 

2.09 point/dollar. 

 

 

[done12many2]

9 minutes ago, ProjectOverkill said:

 

Intel boys triggered.

 

A benchmark is just something that is ran exactly the same each time. But let's ignore a cpuz benchmark then. 

 

A score of 1756 at 500 dollars is 3.52 point/dollar At a stock speeds it was 1604. Or 3.2 point/dollar. 

 

A 6950x stock according to http://www.anandtech.com/show/10337/the-intel-broadwell-e-review-core-i7-6950x-6900k-6850k-and-6800k-tested-up-to-10-cores/6

scored 1829. For a 1.07 point/dollar.

 

A 6900k which is a better comparison (8 core 16 thread) scored 1547. Or 1.4 point/dollar. 

 

Overclock a 6950x and say get a score of 3000. That's still 1.76 point/dollar. 

 

Overclock a 6900k say it can hit 2300. Or 

2.09 point/dollar. 

 

Now one away from the subject this was a thread about ram working with ryzen so you can take blue team out of your mouth now and realize you've been ripped of for Intel for far to long and get back to the OP subject. 

 

 

Says the guy who can beat a 6950x with a "A few tweaks specially if I could get my ram to run at 3200mhz" because the CPUz benchmark tells him so.  I'm pretty sure AMD and Intel fans alike find you very believable.  

 

 

[ProjectOverkill]

[crzyces]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

Says the guy who can beat a 6950x with a "A few tweaks specially if I could get my ram to run at 3200mhz".  I'm pretty sure AMD and Intel fans alike find you very believable.  

 

 

He will prolly beat it in Cinabench and Blender. No one thinks the 1800x is beating any of Intel's big 4 in 90% of games. A select few, but unless they figure out a way to get the "Oh my gosh, the 1700x world record set at 6.37!!! (In a nitrogen tank)" oc's (obviously not that high, but the 4.0-4.1 isn't getting it near the 7700, 6900, 6950 etc). Still a better value per dollar for both gaming, creating, and multitasking, while being superior in the last two (In the commercial line, I am not including mid to high end Xeons here).

[done12many2]

8 minutes ago, crzyces said:

He will prolly beat it in Cinabench and Blender. No one thinks the 1800x is beating any of Intel's big 4 in 90% of games. A select few, but unless they figure out a way to get the "Oh my gosh, the 1700x world record set at 6.37!!! (In a nitrogen tank)" oc's (obviously not that high, but the 4.0-4.1 isn't getting it near the 7700, 6900, 6950 etc). Still a better value per dollar for both gaming, creating, and multitasking, while being superior in the last two (In the commercial line, I am not including mid to high end Xeons here).

 

Can't argue with that.  

[PCGuy_5960]

24 minutes ago, ProjectOverkill said:

 

You're comparing price/performance, not performance

[PCGuy_5960]

11 minutes ago, crzyces said:

He will prolly beat it in Cinabench and Blender. No one thinks the 1800x is beating any of Intel's big 4 in 90% of games. A select few, but unless they figure out a way to get the "Oh my gosh, the 1700x world record set at 6.37!!! (In a nitrogen tank)" oc's (obviously not that high, but the 4.0-4.1 isn't getting it near the 7700, 6900, 6950 etc). Still a better value per dollar for both gaming, creating, and multitasking, while being superior in the last two (In the commercial line, I am not including mid to high end Xeons here).

2 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

Can't argue with that.  

AMD is the king of price/performance, but Intel is still the king of performance

[crzyces]

10 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

AMD is the king of price/performance, but Intel is still the king of performance

Gaming wise. AMD can game very well, while streaming, compressing a vid, and uploading another; well bust that for $315 Intel. Word to my mutha. What, I am super hype dope yo.

 

Good Fun!

[Mortis Angelus]

Wow guys... I had to scroll up to the top of the page to remind myself on what my original question for this thread was. Interesting discussion nevertheless. But have we reached a conclusion or not regarding the RAM? Is it a good or bad idea to buy G.Skill Trident Z RGB for a AMD Ryzen? And is it better to only use 2 modules instead of 4?

 

 

[ProjectOverkill]

22 minutes ago, Mortis Angelus said:

Wow guys... I had to scroll up to the top of the page to remind myself on what my original question for this thread was. Interesting discussion nevertheless. But have we reached a conclusion or not regarding the RAM? Is it a good or bad idea to buy G.Skill Trident Z RGB for a AMD Ryzen? And is it better to only use 2 modules instead of 4?

 

 

As I stated I am running 4 modules and it will not post at 2667. I can only post at 2400. So tonight if you want I can pull two sticks out and see if I can get it to post higher. 

[Mortis Angelus]

3 minutes ago, ProjectOverkill said:

As I stated I am running 4 modules and it will not post at 2667. I can only post at 2400. So tonight if you want I can pull two sticks out and see if I can get it to post higher. 

If you can do that, it would not only be helpful to me, but to everyone else wondering about the exact same issue. Cheers, mate!

[ProjectOverkill]

I work till 1130 so tonight I'll pull a couple sticks and report back. 

[ProjectOverkill]

Well I dicked around with it for a little bit and I couldn't get 2 sticks to post anything past 2400. I'm not home anymore so I didn't mess around to much but I did get it to overclock to 4.1ghz haha. When I get more time I'll try again.

[crzyces]

31 minutes ago, ProjectOverkill said:

Well I dicked around with it for a little bit and I couldn't get 2 sticks to post anything past 2400. I'm not home anymore so I didn't mess around to much but I did get it to overclock to 4.1ghz haha. When I get more time I'll try again.

Without the OC on the chip you still can't up the RAM?

[ProjectOverkill]

1 hour ago, crzyces said:

Without the OC on the chip you still can't up the RAM?

 

Nope I get Od. Sometimes it will stick and just sit there Od never booting up the mouse keyboard or monitor. Other times when it really doesn't like it, it try to boot 5 times, as soon as the LEDs on the ram turn on it shuts off tries to reboot again. Once it cycles it will boot back with 2133. Go into bios and the bios memory frequency is still set to what I told it but it's running at 2133 15-15-15-15-35. 

 

I tried to get it to post without any overclock and just changing the memory frequency. No go. 

 

Tried a few DOCP profiles, would just sit at 0d. 

 

I only spent maybe 30 or so minutes messing around. 

 

According to overclock.net 0d means ram timings failed.

 

I only changed it to the 16-18-18-18-36 that I got it boot on 2400. Which it boots with 2 or 4 sticks. 

 

So when I get time I'll try adjusting the timings out and see if I can get it to post. 

 

Oh and I am running the latest bios 1002.

 

looks like raising the reference clock is the way to push the ram higher. But if you go over 105mhz you need to drop to gen 2 pcie 

[Shiny Pokie Man]

Hey guys, I was planning on buying G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16Q-32GTZR and throw it on a b350 mATX Mobo with a Ryzen 5 1600. I was wondering if I can run the Ram kit at 2400 or lower until the bios issues are resolved in fear of destroying any sticks. Anyone know?

 

[ProjectOverkill]

Alright update time.

 

Oh and this is 32gig 4x8.

 

I got it to run at 2880mhz with 14-15-15-15-36. I after that I got 0d which is timings failed. I could probably push farther if I loosen the timings.

I had to push the bclk to 120 to get here.

 

 

 

This is running at 2600mhz. With a ~3.99ghz CPU clock. Cinebench Score of 1737.

 

 

Running at 2688mhz. Cinebench Score 1746 at ~3.98ghz.

 

 

I forgot to screen shot the Cinebench Score at 2880mhz. and ~4.08ghz it was 1787.

 

 

 

As you can see BIOS showing 2880 with a bclk of 120 to get there. As I said the timings were 14-15-15-15-36 so I could of probably loosened the timings and pushed higher.

 

[ProjectOverkill]

3 hours ago, Shiny Pokie Man said:

Hey guys, I was planning on buying G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16Q-32GTZR and throw it on a b350 mATX Mobo with a Ryzen 5 1600. I was wondering if I can run the Ram kit at 2400 or lower until the bios issues are resolved in fear of destroying any sticks. Anyone know?

 

This is the exact kit I am running. I can post and run 2400mhz at 14-15-15-15-36 only changing the memory frequency.

 

Oh and they are hella gorgeous haha.

[ProjectOverkill]

Anyone who is interested this is my rig. Excuse the ssd floating around but it was the first start up and was cloning the drive.

 

and excuse the hard lines not being perfect I was rushed because the girl needed my old rig so I had to hurry up and get this one running so the hardliners aren't the prettiest but they keep things cool for now. 

 

Also when vega drops a second pump is going in to cool the VGAs that's why there is dual 240ml rads.

 

 

[ProjectOverkill]

Another benchmark.

 

 

[Lenimph]

Im running this kit https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232475 with a MSI Mortar B350 artic and a r5 1600 at there advertised speeds no problem. Now if only I could actually control the RGB lighting. That would be great -.- Good thing I got it on sale. 

[Mortis Angelus]

BTW, have anyone of you guys looked into this issue with Single rank and dual rank memory?

 

Apparently Dual Rank quad dimm at 8 GB per dimm is the worst thing ever (according to Level1 Tech:

 

Also Paul over at Paul's hardware talks about this, but I'm really new to looking this thoroughly at RAM, so I'm more or less just confused atm....

[SilentObsrvr]

I've been frustrated recently with my Asrock X370 K4 Gaming board, and Killer SLI board, neither of them have XMP profiles working with my 3000Mhz GTZR kit.
Or when it did, the RGB strips did not last long. I had 1 RMA when both strips died, the supplier basically did a swap out.
Now I'm running the current 16GB kit at stock speeds of 2133MHz in the hopes there will be some BIOS update in the future with these in the memory QVL. I gave up overclocking my 1800x because of the memory issues.