What CPU as a student

[Raiinbow]

So I'm gonna be starting my undergraduate degree for a computer science engineering in the end of August,

and I'm wondering if the dual cores in the new macbook pros (13'' has an i5 6267U) and the ones in windows laptop (usually a i7 7500u) have enough power for the stuff I'll have to the following 5 years

or will I need the quadcores that are in the beefier and bigger laptops?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

[Skiiwee29]

You would probably bet better off getting a full fledged CPU, like a 7700hq instead of the cut down versions. You will sacrifice some in battery life mainly, but you will have no issues elsewhere. 

[Raiinbow]

Just now, legacy99 said:

You would probably bet better off getting a full fledged CPU, like a 7700hq instead of the cut down versions. You will sacrifice some in battery life mainly, but you will have no issues elsewhere. 

Is there any laptop you have in mind? I know the XPS 15 is loved by many but the camera being in such a stupid position kinda kills it for me since I use it daily..

Battery life is also very important to me

[Dackzy]

how much do you value looks? I would ALWAYS recommend a student to get a business class laptop, simply because shit happens and they are made so they can take a beating.

[Raiinbow]

Just now, Dackzy said:

how much do you value looks? I would ALWAYS recommend a student to get a business class laptop, simply because shit happens and they are made so they can take a beating.

Looks aren't high up on the list at all, what did you have in mind? Money isn't an issue either

[Dackzy]

Just now, Raiinbow said:

Looks aren't high up on the list at all, what did you have in mind? Money isn't an issue either

The T470p is out now, it is a 14" laptop with a quad core and a small dGPU which is fine for Cuda acceleration and the older T460p should be sold at a discount now. Dell also has the Latitude 5480 and the older 5470 which both have quad core options, if you buy the 5480 with the dGPU then you also get TB3.

[Skiiwee29]

16 minutes ago, Raiinbow said:

Is there any laptop you have in mind? I know the XPS 15 is loved by many but the camera being in such a stupid position kinda kills it for me since I use it daily..

Battery life is also very important to me

Honestly, even though I said a full 7700hq would be best, maybe you should also look at the LG Gram that Linus just reviewed. It will have zero gaming ability, but for portability, battery life, and usability besides the microphone and webcam, it got solid reviews from him.

 

 

[Droidbot]

2 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

The T470p is out now, it is a 14" laptop with a quad core and a small dGPU which is fine for Cuda acceleration and the older T460p should be sold at a discount now. Dell also has the Latitude 5480 and the older 5470 which both have quad core options, if you buy the 5480 with the dGPU then you also get TB3.

I agree 100% with this - the T470p is a beast for the money, but be careful of that battery life. 

 

[Dackzy]

4 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

I agree 100% with this - the T470p is a beast for the money, but be careful of that battery life. 

 

 

the smallest battery in the T460p lasted about 4.5 hours of web surfing, so I expect the same or better from the T470p and ofc you can just buy the bigger battery, but then it won't sit flush with the table.

[Raiinbow]

44 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

Honestly, even though I said a full 7700hq would be best, maybe you should also look at the LG Gram that Linus just reviewed. It will have zero gaming ability, but for portability, battery life, and usability besides the microphone and webcam, it got solid reviews from him.

 

 

The webcam is kind of a deal breaker for me

[Skiiwee29]

3 minutes ago, Raiinbow said:

The webcam is kind of a deal breaker for me

could always just get an external USB one. 

[Pendragon]

10 hours ago, Droidbot said:

I agree 100% with this - the T470p is a beast for the money, but be careful of that battery life. 

 

 

To be completely fair, duo-cores will work fine depending on the kind of com sci he's doing. Running multiple vms and doing a dozen things, no no. Coding python, java and c++ would be completely fine. 

[Droidbot]

15 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

To be completely fair, duo-cores will work fine depending on the kind of com sci he's doing. Running multiple vms and doing a dozen things, no no. Coding python, java and c++ would be completely fine. 

fair point, but more power for anything is better

my elitebook's dualcore/4t chip chokes on heavy multitasking load (50+ chrome tabs, word, discord, skype, spotify, and downloads in steam) under OSX even with its very good resource management

[Pendragon]

Just now, Droidbot said:

fair point, but more power for anything is better

 

Oh ofc, I personally haven't used anything less than a quad core since 2012. And my T560 is literally for networking and remoting in for it's amazing battery life. To be honest, none of the current offerings seem to hold a candle to like T430 fully upgraded. I'm like 100% sure that a decked to the tits T430 will out perform any of the current T series cept the T470p. 

[Dackzy]

12 hours ago, Pendragon said:

Oh ofc, I personally haven't used anything less than a quad core since 2012. And my T560 is literally for networking and remoting in for it's amazing battery life. To be honest, none of the current offerings seem to hold a candle to like T430 fully upgraded. I'm like 100% sure that a decked to the tits T430 will out perform any of the current T series cept the T470p. 

 

 

well I don't see how a T430 could beat a T460p (yes the T460p is still a part of the current T series in Denmark)... Also, I LOVE the phrase you used "decked to the tits".

 

TBH I wouldn't recommend getting such an old laptop unless you are on a budget.

[Pendragon]

13 hours ago, Dackzy said:

well I don't see how a T430 could beat a T460p (yes the T460p is still a part of the current T series in Denmark)... Also, I LOVE the phrase you used "decked to the tits".

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Lol yea. Get the 55w i7-3940XM with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut. + maxed out max speed ram + 1080p screen that requires a custom lvds converter board sold in China + 850 EVO SSDs and you beat pretty much everything LOL. Yes the T460p would beat it with the 6820HQ, but none of the ULV shit in the T460(s) or T470(s).

[Dackzy]

4 hours ago, Pendragon said:

Lol yea. Get the 55w i7-3940XM with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut. + maxed out max speed ram + 1080p screen that requires a custom lvds converter board sold in China + 850 EVO SSDs and you beat pretty much everything LOL. Yes the T460p would beat it with the 6820HQ, but none of the ULV shit in the T460(s) or T470(s).

wait can it cool down a 55w? I suspect that is with the GPU heat sink without the GPU.

How much does that little mod cost?

[M.A.P]

On 3/19/2017 at 5:11 PM, Raiinbow said:

I'm wondering if the dual cores in the new macbook pros (13'' has an i5 6267U) and the ones in windows laptop (usually a i7 7500u) have enough power for the stuff I'll have to the following 5 years

or will I need the quadcores that are in the beefier and bigger laptops?

Definitely no, those laptops can't stack up in next 5 years. It is ok for Web Browsing, Watching and streaming videos nothing more than that in next 5 years as both laptops have integrated graphics and maybe few Basic games of that time.

[Pendragon]

1 hour ago, Dackzy said:

How much does that little mod cost?

the board? the conversion board? literally the hardest thing in the world to find right now. I've been trying to source one, (and if and when I do, I'll start my T430 project), but it looks pretty much impossible to source one of these. 

 

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=118070

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=122224

 

If you're fluent in Chinese you can stalk the 51nb forums for the LVDS to eDP conversion boards. 

[Dackzy]

10 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

the board? the conversion board? literally the hardest thing in the world to find right now. I've been trying to source one, (and if and when I do, I'll start my T430 project), but it looks pretty much impossible to source one of these. 

 

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=118070

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=122224

 

aww god damn, it would be a pretty nice backup rig. A T430 goes for like 300€ here and then maybe 150€ for the CPU plus such a kit, that could have been cool.

keep me updated on your project.  

[Pendragon]

6 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

aww god damn, it would be a pretty nice backup rig. A T430 goes for like 300€ here and then maybe 150€ for the CPU plus such a kit, that could have been cool.

keep me updated on your project.  

 

 

 

 

lol the boards aren't available for sale atm. did you know there is a 2k IPS panel for the T430 made by another chinese dude called BigK. the non-s kits were only sold for a period of 18 months and by the time I noticed it was all gone. There's only so many currently available and the guy who makes them (javi-jie) doesn't seem to be making them anymore. Which is rip. 

 

https://forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1667084&highlight=K%B4%F3

[Dackzy]

14 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

lol the boards aren't available for sale atm. did you know there is a 2k IPS panel for the T430 made by another chinese dude called BigK. the non-s kits were only sold for a period of 18 months and by the time I noticed it was all gone. There's only so many currently available and the guy who makes them (javi-jie) doesn't seem to be making them anymore. Which is rip. 

 

https://forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1667084&highlight=K%B4%F3

 

yeah a while back on of my friends showed me it. I saw a eBay link where the kit cost 750$ (and no longer up for sale) which seems a bit extreme. At that point you might as well just buy a new T460p or T470p.

[Pendragon]

20 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

I saw a eBay link where the kit cost 750$

that was a batch of 10 LOL. Nah it sold out now. Rip. It was sold for 75 ): 

[Dackzy]

2 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

that was a batch of 10 LOL. Nah it sold out now. Rip. It was sold for 75 ): 

oh 75$ kinda expensive, but not too bad.