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Putting the Xbox os on a pc?

arbellason55

So I've always wondered why nobody has put the Xbone os on a pc? I'm guessing it is a hardware issue with the parts not being able to properly communicate with the os since it is optimized for very particular hardware. Has anyone tried a workaround before or is it just something that can't be done?

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You simply can't, BIOS won't load the OS and you can't even put the Xbone's BIOS on your computer. Installing the OS also does a hardware check, if it fails it won't install, guess what, your hardware is different.

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These things are very different. This wouldn't work without a complete redesign of the operating system. This would be a really hard task to do, and the hardware optimization would be the first thing to go. 

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It'd be an interesting project if someone had the time, patience and skill to do so.

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1 minute ago, arbellason55 said:

It'd be an interesting project if someone had the time, patience and skill to do so.

You can't.

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If you goal is to run XBOX games on your pc you could always use emulator with Linux if you don't have a OS.

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1 minute ago, AlwaysFSX said:

You can't.

i don't think it's a "can't" issue but more of it being highly impractical/ near impossible :P thing to do.

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4 minutes ago, arbellason55 said:

It'd be an interesting project if someone had the time, patience and skill to do so.

You can't. Nobody in their right mind would try to re-engineer a (relatively, in hardware terms) niche operating system to run on another type of hardware. It would be a complete waste of time because the game optimization wouldn't be existent, and the games probably would need a lot of individual work to be ported over in the first place. 

 

4 minutes ago, arbellason55 said:

i don't think it's a "can't" issue but more of it being highly impractical/ near impossible :P thing to do.

With how much you'd need to do, it is pretty much impossible to do. 

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you see your thinking can you run the Xbox OS on a PC, I am wondering can I run windows on a xbox

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1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

you see your thinking can you run the Xbox OS on a PC, I am wondering can I run windows on a xbox

Maybe with some KILLER emulation skills, but not likely. It's got a custom AMD chip in it. 

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Just now, grimreeper132 said:

you see your thinking can you run the Xbox OS on a PC, I am wondering can I run windows on a xbox

Running linux or windows on an Xbone is probably feasible but it's the same question as running Xbone's OS on a pc. Why would you? :P

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9 minutes ago, arbellason55 said:

i don't think it's a "can't" issue but more of it being highly impractical/ near impossible :P thing to do.

No you don't understand, you can't. Even if you rewrite the BIOS to work on your motherboard the OS itself still does a hardware check, and you're not going to rewrite an operating system either. You simply don't have the hardware or software to make it work.

 

You literally can't do it.

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1 minute ago, arbellason55 said:

Running linux or windows on an Xbone is probably feasible but it's the same question as running Xbone's OS on a pc. Why would you? :P

I dunno, I mean I can get a cheap xbox 360 for very little, £30-£50 which is probably on par if not higher spec wise than other £50 PCs, so you know it's a cheap PC, maybe if it works

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The Toasted Controller (i5 4670, R9 380, 24GB)

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Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

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The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

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1 minute ago, AlwaysFSX said:

No you don't understand, you can't. Even if you rewrite the BIOS to work on your motherboard the OS itself still does a hardware check, and you're not going to rewrite an operating system either. You simply don't have the hardware or software to make it work.

 

You literally can't do it.

I hope you know I'm being entirely theoretical with this.

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1 minute ago, arbellason55 said:

I hope you know I'm being entirely theoretical with this.

Your theory won't work.

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Just now, grimreeper132 said:

I dunno, I mean I can get a cheap xbox 360 for very little, £30-£50 which is probably on par if not higher spec wise than other £50 PCs, so you know it's a cheap PC, maybe if it works

It's designed as a console, and the usability and the practicality of something like that would just be stupid. And don't underestimate £50 computers, they can pack quite a punch. And you lose upgrade options. 

 

1 minute ago, arbellason55 said:

I hope you know I'm being entirely theoretical with this.

Theoretically, no. In reality, no. 

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Just now, AlwaysFSX said:

Your theory won't work.

will it work going the other way though, windows on xbox 1/360 (I don't wanna do this, just wondering myself)

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The Lord of all Toasters (1920X 1080ti 32GB)

The Toasted Controller (i5 4670, R9 380, 24GB)

The Semi Portable Toastie machine (i7 3612QM (was an i3) intel HD 4000 16GB)'

Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

The Cheese Toastie (C2D (of some sort), GTX 760, 3GB, win XP gaming machine)

The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

Matter of Loaf and death (some old shitty AMD laptop)

windybread (4X E5470, intel HD, 32GB ECC) (use coming soon, maybe)

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Just now, Jamiec1130 said:

It's designed as a console, and the usability and the practicality of something like that would just be stupid. And don't underestimate £50 computers, they can pack quite a punch. And you lose upgrade options.  

I don't wouldn't want it to work longer than 5-10 minutes, cause after that I will go, "well that was cool, lets go do something practical now" but I am just wondering if it is, cause I anit got anything else but to wonder if I could. and upgrade wise, meh. it would be a cool PC to have, and never use.

The owner of "too many" computers, called

The Lord of all Toasters (1920X 1080ti 32GB)

The Toasted Controller (i5 4670, R9 380, 24GB)

The Semi Portable Toastie machine (i7 3612QM (was an i3) intel HD 4000 16GB)'

Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

The Cheese Toastie (C2D (of some sort), GTX 760, 3GB, win XP gaming machine)

The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

Matter of Loaf and death (some old shitty AMD laptop)

windybread (4X E5470, intel HD, 32GB ECC) (use coming soon, maybe)

And more, several more

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2 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

will it work going the other way though, windows on xbox 1/360 (I don't wanna do this, just wondering myself)

Only with some SERIOUS emulation on the console's part. Getting that to work would be difficult, though. I can see Windows 3.1 through NT 4 working,

 

1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

I don't wouldn't want it to work longer than 5-10 minutes, cause after that I will go, "well that was cool, lets go do something practical now" but I am just wondering if it is, cause I anit got anything else but to wonder if I could. and upgrade wise, meh. it would be a cool PC to have, and never use.

With a modern version of Windows, probably not. It'd be a lot of work for the console. But maybe something like Windows 3.1 or 95 (Someone got 3.1 on a Wii).

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Just now, Jamiec1130 said:

Only with some SERIOUS emulation on the console's part. Getting that to work would be difficult, though. I can see Windows 3.1 through NT 4 working,

 

With a modern version of Windows, probably not. It'd be a lot of work for the console. But maybe something like Windows 3.1 or 95 (Someone got 3.1 on a Wii).

aye ok, I am thinking it would probably be easier with Linux, so yea, glad I now know it's possible, doubt I'll ever do it but glad I know it's possible

 

The owner of "too many" computers, called

The Lord of all Toasters (1920X 1080ti 32GB)

The Toasted Controller (i5 4670, R9 380, 24GB)

The Semi Portable Toastie machine (i7 3612QM (was an i3) intel HD 4000 16GB)'

Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

The Cheese Toastie (C2D (of some sort), GTX 760, 3GB, win XP gaming machine)

The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

Matter of Loaf and death (some old shitty AMD laptop)

windybread (4X E5470, intel HD, 32GB ECC) (use coming soon, maybe)

And more, several more

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34 minutes ago, arbellason55 said:

So I've always wondered why nobody has put the Xbone os on a pc? I'm guessing it is a hardware issue with the parts not being able to properly communicate with the os since it is optimized for very particular hardware. Has anyone tried a workaround before or is it just something that can't be done?

 Emulation Exists for the easiest way to do something like this. Though emulation comes years after a consoles life cycle typically. Complexity and hardware speed are difficult to overcome 

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22 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

will it work going the other way though, windows on xbox 1/360 (I don't wanna do this, just wondering myself)

X1 maybe. If you can get the BIOS to boot it, which I would find hard to believe. 360 not a chance.

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Just now, AlwaysFSX said:

X1 maybe. If you can get the BIOS to boot it, which I would find hard to believe. 360 not a chance.

fair enough

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The Lord of all Toasters (1920X 1080ti 32GB)

The Toasted Controller (i5 4670, R9 380, 24GB)

The Semi Portable Toastie machine (i7 3612QM (was an i3) intel HD 4000 16GB)'

Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

The Cheese Toastie (C2D (of some sort), GTX 760, 3GB, win XP gaming machine)

The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

Matter of Loaf and death (some old shitty AMD laptop)

windybread (4X E5470, intel HD, 32GB ECC) (use coming soon, maybe)

And more, several more

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22 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

will it work going the other way though, windows on xbox 1/360 (I don't wanna do this, just wondering myself)

X1 maybe. If you can get the BIOS to boot it, which I would find hard to believe. 360 not a chance.

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1 hour ago, AlwaysFSX said:

X1 maybe. If you can get the BIOS to boot it, which I would find hard to believe. 360 not a chance.

Agreed. The Xbox 360 is based on PPC, which struggles to emulate Intel on newer Macs (than the 360). 

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Intel Core i7-2600 (4C/8T), ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3, 16GB GEIL Enhance Corsa DDR3 1600MHz, Zotac GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB, 240GB ADATA Ultimate SU650, Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

 

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