Finally Joker Ryzen CPU gaming benchmarks on track!

[i_build_nanosuits]

GTX 1080 rendering at 720P low settings is the way to test CPU gaming performance...now YES people DON'T game at 720P with high-end graphics solutions...

But to demonstrate how much can a CPU POTENTIALLY deliver high level of gaming performance rendering on ''easy settings'' for the GPU is the way to do it...

Now...check the video and see for yourself:

 

 

 

 

 

[GirlFromYonder]

well........kabylake has slighty more ipc and higher clock speed

[The Sloth]

they really need optimization, also not bad for a 8 core cpu. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

they really need optimization, also not bad for a 8 core cpu. 

watchdogs 2 and battlefield 1 use all 16 threads...it's just that none of them is fast enough.

[The Sloth]

Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

watchdogs 2 and battlefield 1 use all 16 threads...it's just that none of them is fast enough.

watchdog 2 is a joke in optimization, bf1 result is what i want to see more of also wondering how performance will be in 6 months when most bugs are fixed  software have matured.  

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

watchdogs 2 and battlefield 1 use all 16 threads...it's just that none of them is fast enough.

Ryzen's IPC is on par with Haswell... It just doesn't overclock.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

watchdog 2 is a joke in optimization, bf1 result is what i want to see more of also wondering how performance will be in 6 months when most bugs are fixed  software have matured.  

yeah but the 7700K is at least 25% faster pretty much consistently though...i think no optimisation will improve that...also Joker got lucky to run 3000mhz RAM on the platform...i must admit though sometimes the rendering animation does seem smoother on the ryzen CPU with less micro-stuttering it might just be the rendering or capturing of the video or maybe i'm crazy but it does look smoother on multi-core.

[stealth80]

Somethings off here:

 

11 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

 

 

 

 

Why is the Ryzen using 5.8Gb of ram vs the 1.8gb of the 7700K ??!

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, stealth80 said:

Somethings off here:

 

Why is the Ryzen using 5.8Gb of ram vs the 1.8gb of the 7700K ??!

no idea..but you can see the full video footage and the screenshot is taken at exactly the same moment in the game it's identicle on both side but i must say if you look the ryzen is at least 90FPS+ average....it had a hickup or someting there...

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, stealth80 said:

Why is the Ryzen using 5.8Gb of ram vs the 1.8gb of the 7700K ??!

I am pretty sure that this is vRAM and the scene on the 7700K is a bit more CPU intensive (see the GPU usage?)

[stealth80]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

I am pretty sure that this is vRAM and the scene on the 7700K is a bit more CPU intensive (see the GPU usage?)

5.8gb vram at 720p, minimum settings, no, hell no. Something is wrong with this

[PCGuy_5960]

8 hours ago, stealth80 said:

5.8gb vram at 720p, minimum settings, no, hell no. Something is wrong with this

Dunno

8 hours ago, stealth80 said:

5.8gb vram at 720p, minimum settings, no, hell no. Something is wrong with this

TBH, I think that this is just a false reading and nothing more...

[DarkBlade2117]

>New platform

Give it a 2-6 weeks. See how performance is then. There are 2-3 obvious flaws with Ryzen right now that are OBVIOUSLY affecting its performance. Like how disabling SMT raised the minimum FPS in BF1 on the 1800x by TWENTY fps and the idea that people have trouble using RAM over 2666Mhz.

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

>New platform

Give it a 2-6 weeks. See how performance is then. There are 2-3 obvious flaws with Ryzen right now that are OBVIOUSLY affecting its performance. Like how disabling SMT raised the minimum FPS in BF1 on the 1800x by TWENTY fps and the idea that people have trouble using RAM over 2666Mhz.

SMT overhead is a hardware issue AFAIK... It will be perfected with later revisions of the CPU, but I am not sure that this issue can be solved with a BIOS update...

[alexcheetah]

One thing  that is really odd about the comparison is how in Games like sniper elite, the gpu is being utilized less then the intel counterpart. Is something off?

[DarkBlade2117]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

SMT overhead is a hardware issue AFAIK... It will be perfected with later revisions of the CPU, but I am not sure that this issue can be solved with a BIOS update...

If it can't, rip or if AMD doesn't offer something for it.

[PCGuy_5960]

3 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

If it can't, rip or if AMD doesn't offer something for it.

Intel had the same issues... But they improved the their SMT with every new generation they released...

[i_build_nanosuits]

3 hours ago, alexcheetah said:

One thing  that is really odd about the comparison is how in Games like sniper elite, the gpu is being utilized less then the intel counterpart. Is something off?

no it's because the intel CPU is much faster therefore it can process more drawcalls and feed the GPU with more frames, making it work harder.

[Phentos]

5 hours ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

SMT overhead is a hardware issue AFAIK...

I don't think it is actually.

 

Most applications and games are compiled in a way to take advantage of Intel's hyperthreading method. AMD's SMT counterpart uses a much different methodology. Windows also controls thread scheduling, which will affect SMT performance as well.

 

Software updates could mitigate the issue if the developers actually put in the effort to do so.

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 hour ago, Phentos said:

I don't think it is actually.

 

Most applications and games are compiled in a way to take advantage of Intel's hyperthreading method. AMD's SMT counterpart uses a much different methodology. Windows also controls thread scheduling, which will affect SMT performance as well.

 

Software updates could mitigate the issue if the developers actually put in the effort to do so.

from the benchmarks i've seen though the ryzen SMT seem to outperform that of intel...cause it has superb multi-threaded scalling even though average single core performance...

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

GPU on utilization on the Ryzen is higher than the one on kabylake 

 

vram usage is wayy off

 

Not a good scene to cherry pick for the message you're trying to convey. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, Pohernori said:

GPU on utilization on the Ryzen is higher than the one on kabylake 

 

vram usage is wayy off

 

Not a good scene to cherry pick for the message you're trying to convey. 

- check again, the GPU usage on the intel is consistently higher throughout

-Vram usage is the same pretty all the way except the screen shot i took

-i know right

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

33 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

- check again, the GPU usage on the intel is consistently higher throughout

-Vram usage is the same pretty all the way except the screen shot i took

-i know right

 

- look at the image you took

- look at the image you took

- do better next time 

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, Pohernori said:

 

- look at the image you took

- look at the image you took

- do better next time 

i removed the picture...now watch the video.

[plus]

There's an interesting reaction to this video.