1080ti or Volta?

[Toysoldiers35]

I have a 980ti and a 144hz 1440p display. Most titles run sub 100 fps on my setup with my 6700k, 16gb ram, and 980ti. I have monitor or games like CSGO and lol which I can get 144fps. But on titles like bf1 I want to get my monitors money worth. is it worth it to buy a 1080ti or wait for volt? Thanks

[themctipers]

Wait.. You can do it  

[Hunter06]

we dont have any info about volta

[paps511]

3 minutes ago, Toysoldiers35 said:

I have a 980ti and a 144hz 1440p display. Most titles run sub 100 fps on my setup with my 6700k, 16gb ram, and 980ti. I have monitor or games like CSGO and lol which I can get 144fps. But on titles like bf1 I want to get my monitors money worth. is it worth it to buy a 1080ti or wait for volt? Thanks

 

1 minute ago, Hunter06 said:

we dont have any info about volta

We technically don't have any REAL information about the 1080Ti either. Not until someone in the world can do INDEPENDENT testing. Just like Ryzen.

Wait till there are actual testing results.

Then buy the better one

[Mira Yurizaki]

17 minutes ago, paps511 said:

We technically don't have any REAL information about the 1080Ti either. Not until someone in the world can do INDEPENDENT testing. Just like Ryzen.

Wait till there are actual testing results.

Except the 1080 Ti is based on an existing product, and in fact, is basically a Titan XP with one less GB of VRAM. So we can make a guess with high confidence about its performance.

 

Ryzen is a completely different architecture than anything else available with nothing else to compare it to directly.

[gcubed]

For the sake of brevity, lets say that the Volta cards will be named similar to the Pascal cards. That is to say on release there will be a 1160, 1170, 1180 and shortly after that a Titan X(V?).

 

You can buy a 1080 TI now, or wait 6 to 8 months for the 1180.

But wait...

When the 1180 ships, it will only be about 6 to 8 months before the 1180 TI ships.

But wait...

When the 1180 TI ships, it will only be about 6 to 8 months before the 1280 ships.

But wait...

When the 1280 ships, it will only be about 6 to 8 months before the 1280 TI ships.

 

Some time between the 1080 TI and the 2080 TI, you are going to have to stop with the but waits and actually purchase a card. It might as well be now.

 

[CostcoSamples]

980 Ti is about equivalent to a 1070.  Upgrading from 1070 to 1080 Ti (assume equal to Titan XP for argument sake) would be a barely noticeable upgrade.  If you are already getting 80-100 FPS, you might get another 30 FPS on 1080 Ti.  The difference won't be that noticeable.  

 

I say you should wait another 6 to 9 months for Volta (GTX 1180? 2080?)

[smokefest]

27 minutes ago, CostcoSamples said:

980 Ti is about equivalent to a 1070.  Upgrading from 1070 to 1080 Ti (assume equal to Titan XP for argument sake) would be a barely noticeable upgrade.  If you are already getting 80-100 FPS, you might get another 30 FPS on 1080 Ti.  The difference won't be that noticeable.  

 

I say you should wait another 6 to 9 months for Volta (GTX 1180? 2080?)

100 fps to 130 fps is 30% better performance.

GTX 1070 to gtx 1080 is mostly 20% better performance.

 

Gtx 1080ti will probably be something like 40% better performance than a 1080.

That said, a gtx 1080ti will probably be something like 60% better than a gtx 1070.

So saying that upgrading from a 1070 to 1080 ti is barely noticeable is wrong 

[CostcoSamples]

35 minutes ago, smokefest said:

100 fps to 130 fps is 30% better performance.

GTX 1070 to gtx 1080 is mostly 20% better performance.

 

Gtx 1080ti will probably be something like 40% better performance than a 1080.

That said, a gtx 1080ti will probably be something like 60% better than a gtx 1070.

So saying that upgrading from a 1070 to 1080 ti is barely noticeable is wrong 

Tom's Hardware keeps a GPU Hierarchy Chart for easy performance comparison.  They recommend that you hold off on upgrades until you can move up at least 3 performance tiers, otherwise the difference is barely noticeable.  1070 to Titan X is only one tier difference.

 

If you think you have better data, judgement, and experience than Tom's Hardware, perhaps you should open your own tech blog?

[smokefest]

2 minutes ago, CostcoSamples said:

Tom's Hardware keeps a GPU Hierarchy Chart for easy performance comparison.  They recommend that you hold off on upgrades until you can move up at least 3 performance tiers, otherwise the difference is barely noticeable.  1070 to Titan X is only one tier difference.

 

If you think you have better data, judgement, and experience than Tom's Hardware, perhaps you should open your own tech blog?

fuck tom hardwares we are in linustechtips here GTFO ! no just kidding buddy !!!!

 

You should upgrade your GPU whenever you want or feel the need, whether its tier 13083198 or tier 1, wether it's 15% performance or 50% performance.

GTX 1070 to gtx 1080 ti is gonna be probably a good 50% increase performance so its worth to upgrade to me  

[Qwweb]

Nvidia usually announces their new architectures the year after the final card of a line is released. They usually announce during Q2 (in the summer) usually in June or July, if you wait, it will be at least 1 year, if not more seeing that Volta is a new process and architecture that will also likely not be using GDDR 5/x, likely moving to HBM2 due to higher memory bandwidth and density (memory amount/die is nearly 4 times greater than GDDR5/x). 

[Qwweb]

6 minutes ago, CostcoSamples said:

They recommend that you hold off on upgrades until you can move up at least 3 performance tiers, otherwise the difference is barely noticeable.

Hehehe, I will be moving to a 7700K from a 2640M and to at least a 1080 from a NVS 4200M, how many tiers would that be...

[tomotomov92]

1 minute ago, Qwweb said:

Hehehe, I will be moving to a 7700K from a 2640M and to at least a 1080 from a NVS 4200M, how many tiers would that be...

It looks like they are in the same tier (chips that use nm for size measurement). Wait until they make everything smaller

[Biggerboot]

1 hour ago, Toysoldiers35 said:

I have a 980ti and a 144hz 1440p display. Most titles run sub 100 fps on my setup with my 6700k, 16gb ram, and 980ti. I have monitor or games like CSGO and lol which I can get 144fps. But on titles like bf1 I want to get my monitors money worth. is it worth it to buy a 1080ti or wait for volt? Thanks

If the intention is to be able to run 4K Ultra on BF1 at a steady 144 fps, then it may be better to wait for the 1180 ti or 1280 ti.  Even SLI'd 1080s won't always get you those results.  But if you can compromise a little bit, the 1080ti will be a pretty noticeable upgrade.  Poorly optimized game or not, you'll see a 50% improvement from the 980ti easily.  Even more with overclocking.

[Qwweb]

4 minutes ago, tomotomov92 said:

It looks like they are in the same tier (chips that use nm for size measurement). Wait until they make everything smaller

Yup, totally didn't need the 4 extra threads and 2GHz upgrade or 1600% increase in VRAM also GDDR 5X vs GDDR3...I have a very old laptop...

[Princess Luna]

55 minutes ago, smokefest said:

100 fps to 130 fps is 30% better performance.

GTX 1070 to gtx 1080 is mostly 20% better performance.

 

Gtx 1080ti will probably be something like 40% better performance than a 1080.

That said, a gtx 1080ti will probably be something like 60% better than a gtx 1070.

So saying that upgrading from a 1070 to 1080 ti is barely noticeable is wrong 

In real life it still is barely noticeable if you going to be gaming on anything under 4k... it is like people have been saying, the 1080ti is not good enough for 4k but already too much for 1440p...

 

Anyways I think OP should wait for Vega at least.

[Galm]

This thread has a lot of interesing info...

 

OP Volta is most likely not coming to consumers in 2018.  Nvidia must launch Volta Teslas this year to fulfill contracts but I wouldn't expect Volta as long as nothing drastic happens.

 

With that in mind think about what you wanna do and if it's actually worth it to wait that long.

 

People saying to wait right at an announcement are usually wrong imo as you'll be waiting a while.  It made sense in like June/July 2016 to wait for Pascal for example, but not like November 2015 that's ridiculously far away.  You need to buy a gpu at some point to actually enjoy using your computer.

 

If you aren't trying for like 4k 144Hz a 1080 Ti should be a very very nice experience.

 

Additionally, no we do know mostly where 1080 Ti is going to perform.  Well above 1080 Ti, and unclear around Titan XP.  Expect it to probably be slightly under at stock but above when OCed similar to 980 Ti.  Based on the specs we have there aren't any crazy wild cards.  Benchmarks obviously will make it more exact, but this isn't like Ryzen where we really couldn't tell ahead of time without benchmarking because so much changed.  This is a GP102 with less rops, higher clocks, same cudas, and slightly lower bandwidth.  We can do math to get estimates pretty close from Titan XP.

[smokefest]

56 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

In real life it still is barely noticeable if you going to be gaming on anything under 4k... it is like people have been saying, the 1080ti is not good enough for 4k but already too much for 1440p...

 

Anyways I think OP should wait for Vega at least.

just use DSR if you ahve a 1080p monitor....