Thunderbolt 4?

[Nikesta]

Externally graphics cards are becoming incredibly common and that makes me excited however the bandwidth being somewhat limited for GPU's do you think we'll get 80Gbps and when do you think it'll be out? has there been any news about it?

[AlTech]

41 minutes ago, Nikesta said:

Externally graphics cards are becoming incredibly common and that makes me excited however the bandwidth being somewhat limited for GPU's do you think we'll get 80Gbps and when do you think it'll be out? has there been any news about it?

I do think we'll get 80Gbit/s per connection but IDK when we'll get it.

 

 

Apple and Intel are both responsible for Thunderbolt 3 but it appears they're taking their time with TB3 and not gonna release a successor this year.

[Sack]

27 minutes ago, Nikesta said:

Externally graphics cards are becoming incredibly common and that makes me excited however the bandwidth being somewhat limited for GPU's do you think we'll get 80Gbps and when do you think it'll be out? has there been any news about it?

I think that's a bit of an exageration man, I've never even seen one, only on LTT videos.

[Nikesta]

Just now, Sack said:

I think that's a bit of an exageration man, I've never even seen one, only on LTT videos.

dude, Companies are really investing in them, razer, Asus, MSI, Alienware.

[Sack]

Just now, Nikesta said:

dude, Companies are really investing in them, razer, Asus, MSI, Alienware.

People invest heavily in super computers too, but they're not by any stretch of imagination "common". cellphones (smart and old type) that's common.

[Master Disaster]

2 minutes ago, Nikesta said:

dude, Companies are really investing in them, razer, Asus, MSI, Alienware.

They're also investing in Titan XPs but they're not "incredibly common" either.

[Mira Yurizaki]

External graphics is still a very niche product (most PC gamers will just get a desktop of some sort). Also consider that even a GTX 1080 only takes a small performance hit on some games running PCIe 3.0 x4 and that Thunderbolt requires a pricier licensing than most other peripheral ports.

 

So boosting Thunderbolt speeds just to service eGPUs seems like kind of a waste.

[AlTech]

It should be noted that a new Thunderbolt version typically comes out every 2 years.

 

TB1 - Early 2011 for Announcement/ Late 2011 for Implementation

TB2 - Early 2013 for Announcement/ Late 2013 for Implementation

TB3 - Mid 2015 for Announcement/ Mid to Late 2016 for Implementation.

 

Therefore TB4 should be around Mid to Late 2017 for announcement and up to Mid to late 2018 for implementation.

[Nikesta]

5 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

They're also investing in Titan XPs but they're not "incredibly common" either.

this may be the stupidest comment I've ever seen. I'll just ignore it

[Nikesta]

4 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

It should be noted that a new Thunderbolt version typically comes out every 2 years.

 

TB1 - Early 2011 for Announcement/ Late 2011 for Implementation

TB2 - Early 2013 for Announcement/ Late 2013 for Implementation

TB3 - Mid 2015 for Announcement/ Mid to Late 2016 for Implementation.

 

Therefore TB4 should be around Mid to Late 2017 for announcement and up to Mid to late 2018 for implementation.

Thank you sir, lets hope so. just the info I was hoping to find.

[GreenToxon]

I'm not sure on the release date but that it'll happen, it will. Everyone is always pushing to have the newest and best tech. Like HDMI 2.1 which has been announced and is supposed to have a bandwidth of 48GB/s. 

[TheRandomness]

-Thread moved to Peripherals.

[Nikesta]

1 hour ago, TheRandomness said:

-Thread moved to Peripherals.

Hmm, I wasn't sure where to begin the thread. since it's about Software but also Peripherals.

[Master Disaster]

2 hours ago, Nikesta said:

this may be the stupidest comment I've ever seen. I'll just ignore it

Coming from the guy who says eGPUs are "incredibly common" that means nothing.

[JorAlv]

It now seems pretty likely due to the announcement of PCIe 4.0 as the Thunderbolt 4 would probably be based on PCIe 4.0

[Guest lilbman]

On 2/26/2017 at 9:16 AM, Nikesta said:

dude, Companies are really investing in them, razer, Asus, MSI, Alienware.

Alienware has a proprietary PCI.E connection for their notebooks.  They can use TB3 but the proprietary one works better.

[Guest lilbman]

On 2/26/2017 at 9:31 AM, AluminiumTech said:

It should be noted that a new Thunderbolt version typically comes out every 2 years.

 

TB1 - Early 2011 for Announcement/ Late 2011 for Implementation

TB2 - Early 2013 for Announcement/ Late 2013 for Implementation

TB3 - Mid 2015 for Announcement/ Mid to Late 2016 for Implementation.

 

Therefore TB4 should be around Mid to Late 2017 for announcement and up to Mid to late 2018 for implementation.

I think Intel is taking it slow with TB3.  There are barely any peripherals that even fully use the capabilities of TB3.

[Balance.]

I think the display options of Thunderbolt 4 are most interesting. Let's assume 80 Gb/s raw throughput and 64 Gb/s effective throughput (8b/10b encoding), and you can connect the following displays:

• 3840x2160 (4K) 240Hz 10-bit (59,7 Gb/s)
• 5120x2880 (5K) 144Hz 10-bit (63,7 Gb/s)
• 7680x4320 (8K) 60Hz 10-bit (59,7 Gb/s)

Or imagine some crazy wide displays

• 4096x1920 256Hz 10-bit (60,4 GB/s)
• 5120x2160 192Hz 10-bit (63,7 Gb/s)
• 5760x2560 144Hz 10-bit (63,7 GB/s)
• 7680x2880 96Hz 10-bit (63,7 Gb/s)

More vertical space and 3:2 ratio?

• 3840x2560 200Hz 10-bit (59,0 Gb/s)
• 4608x3072 144Hz 10-bit (61,2 Gb/s)
• 5760x3840 96Hz 10-bit (63,7 Gb/s)

With this kind of bandwidth, the possibilities are almost endless.

[Donald-kerner]

I honestly think that Thunderbolt 4 will be announced mid 2018 and released in Early 2019-Early 2020 also to make life easier this is what new resolutions should (Because it would make more sense)

1920x1080 1K (Previously known as 2K)

2560x1440 1.5K V1 (Previously known as 2.5K)

2880x1620 1.5K V2 (Previously known as 3K)

3840x2160 2K (Previously known as 4K)

5120x2880 3K (Previously known as 5K)

7680x4320 4K (Previously known as 8K)