Pentium G4560 for productivity

[JABBYofficial]

Hello guys, this is my first post on the forum. I am planning to do a budget build for good 1080p gaming and productivity like light video editing and rendering. This is my list including the peripherals : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JCPhq . I need help, if I can make this a better build it would be awesome. I'm just starting at gaming and productivity and I'm planning to start my youtube channel. No streaming and anything related to that, just plain jane 1080p gaming and productivity.

 

THANKS SO MUCH GUYS!

[GDRRiley]

wait a few weeks for ryzen 

[JABBYofficial]

I'm just starting out as a PCMR member. Thanks but heard Ryzen is really REALLY good so much so that I think even the entry-level is a bit overkill for me

 

[GDRRiley]

12 minutes ago, JABBYofficial said:

I'm just starting out as a PCMR member. Thanks but heard Ryzen is really REALLY good so much so that I think even the entry-level is a bit overkill for me

 

no 160 for basicly an i7 is good. 

[JABBYofficial]

4 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

no 160 for basicly an i7 is good. 

I'm sorry i don't follow. 

[Thinkfreely]

7 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

no 160 for basicly an i7 is good. 

Talking about performance of ryzen vs i7

[GDRRiley]

4 minutes ago, JABBYofficial said:

I'm sorry i don't follow. 

amd will have a quad core with amd's equivalent of hyper threading for 160ish. or a quad core for 120$ 

1 minute ago, Thinkfreely said:

Talking about performance of ryzen vs i7

yeah there looks to be a  quad core with amd's equivalent of hyper threading for 160ish so basicly a desktop i7. 

[Droidbot]

3 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

amd will have a quad core with amd's equivalent of hyper threading for 160ish. or a quad core for 120$ 

yeah there looks to be a  quad core with amd's equivalent of hyper threading for 160ish so basicly a desktop i7. 

Remember, leaks don't actually mean truth - In court for example, leaks don't actually count as information as nobody knows where they were acquired from. 

[GDRRiley]

1 minute ago, Droidbot said:

Remember, leaks don't actually mean truth - In court for example, leaks don't actually count as information as nobody knows where they were acquired from. 

I know but that seams right based on how amd priced other chips

[DarkBlade2117]

3 minutes ago, JABBYofficial said:

I'm sorry i don't follow. 

I did productivity on an i3-6100. Light video editing ect, it was feasible. I think having adobe premier on my SSD would of done much better + having 16GBs of RAM.

IMO. Looking at your list, there is a minor issue.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/r2n4wV

I'd go with this, better PSU, better GPU and far better SSD. If I were you I'd really spend the extra money on having the ability to upgrade to 16GBs of RAM which will be more worth it in the future such as this https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/m8wfRG

Also, Ryzen is worth a 2 week wait just to see what it has to offer in a similar price range. If you can get a 4c/4t CPU for not much more with similar IPC, than it is worth the wait

[Droidbot]

4 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

I did productivity on an i3-6100. Light video editing ect, it was feasible. I think having adobe premier on my SSD would of done much better + having 16GBs of RAM.

IMO. Looking at your list, there is a minor issue.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/r2n4wV

I'd go with this, better PSU, better GPU and far better SSD. If I were you I'd really spend the extra money on having the ability to upgrade to 16GBs of RAM which will be more worth it in the future such as this https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/m8wfRG

Also, Ryzen is worth a 2 week wait just to see what it has to offer in a similar price range. If you can get a 4c/4t CPU for not much more with similar IPC, than it is worth the wait

For reference - SteelSeries Rival 300 - better mouse with better sensor - is currently $49 at Futu Online on eBay with the 20% off code, just a recommendation

[DarkBlade2117]

1 minute ago, Droidbot said:

For reference - SteelSeries Rival 300 - better mouse with better sensor - is currently $49 at Futu Online on eBay with the 20% off code, just a recommendation

Rival 300 is a big mouse though, I've got a pretty big hand and it is almost to big for me, G302 is much smaller. It might not fit comfortably with OP

[JABBYofficial]

This alao means waiting for an AM4 motherboard right? No worries  i just trusted this because this is what I somewhat already know. I'm a bit skeptical of Ryzen. 

[JABBYofficial]

16 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

I did productivity on an i3-6100. Light video editing ect, it was feasible. I think having adobe premier on my SSD would of done much better + having 16GBs of RAM.

IMO. Looking at your list, there is a minor issue.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/r2n4wV

I'd go with this, better PSU, better GPU and far better SSD. If I were you I'd really spend the extra money on having the ability to upgrade to 16GBs of RAM which will be more worth it in the future such as this https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/m8wfRG

Also, Ryzen is worth a 2 week wait just to see what it has to offer in a similar price range. If you can get a 4c/4t CPU for not much more with similar IPC, than it is worth the wait

Thanks a ton! Will look onto these later. It's just a start-up build for me. I was also asking if I ever build on an SG13 with a stock cooler that if it's good but anyway thanks a bunch

[DarkBlade2117]

1 minute ago, JABBYofficial said:

Thanks a ton! Will look onto these later. It's just a start-up build for me. I was also asking if I ever build on an SG13 with a stock cooler that if it's good but anyway thanks a bunch

@byalexandrmight be able to help with whether a 120mm AIO is worth it or not for an SG13.

[typographie]

47 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

no 160 for basicly an i7 is good. 

If we're just going off of thread counts and pricing, an FX-8350 looks like a really cheap i7 as well. Please, please, please wait for independent benchmarks before making up your mind about what is comparable to an i7. I agree it's smart to wait, but rumors are not good enough to make that assertion.

[JABBYofficial]

2 hours ago, typographie said:

If we're just going off of thread counts and pricing, an FX-8350 looks like a really cheap i7 as well. Please, please, please wait for independent benchmarks before making up your mind about what is comparable to an i7. I agree it's smart to wait, but rumors are not good enough to make that assertion.

Agreed as well. That's why I leaned on the G4560 as the Cpu For my first budget build. I mean it's already good enough that it has hyper threading. And i'm less concered with the clock speeds since i'm aiming for air cooling. But Ryzen makes me skeptical. I CAN wait for a bit. 

[byalexandr]

6 hours ago, JABBYofficial said:

Thanks a ton! Will look onto these later. It's just a start-up build for me. I was also asking if I ever build on an SG13 with a stock cooler that if it's good but anyway thanks a bunch

It depends on the TDP of the chip. I've used AIOs for i3s and they don't make much of a difference as the stock cooler is able to pull away heat efficiently but once you start using hotter chips you definitely can expect a cooling difference with AIOs.

 

I've had a few SG13s, a couple of SG05s, and a modified 6.2L SG05 btw, so I'm speaking from experience.

[typographie]

4 hours ago, JABBYofficial said:

I CAN wait for a bit. 

I still would wait a bit. Though I bristle at some of the assumptions being made, I do think it's possible Ryzen may still give you a better option for your money, especially if you're interested in certain types of productivity work. Lots of cores for cheap does not necessarily add up to an "i7," but there may still be a better option for budget video editing than a hyperthreaded Pentium.

[JABBYofficial]

8 hours ago, typographie said:

I still would wait a bit. Though I bristle at some of the assumptions being made, I do think it's possible Ryzen may still give you a better option for your money, especially if you're interested in certain types of productivity work. Lots of cores for cheap does not necessarily add up to an "i7," but there may still be a better option for budget video editing than a hyperthreaded Pentium.

alrighty =) thanks so much. I was leaning just towards light productivity overall. I agree with your point on Ryzen but it's sort of overkill for me I would love if Ryzen can release more low-end CPUs

[JABBYofficial]

9 hours ago, byalexandr said:

It depends on the TDP of the chip. I've used AIOs for i3s and they don't make much of a difference as the stock cooler is able to pull away heat efficiently but once you start using hotter chips you definitely can expect a cooling difference with AIOs.

 

I've had a few SG13s, a couple of SG05s, and a modified 6.2L SG05 btw, so I'm speaking from experience.

Thanks so much!