computer for deep storage

[spellmanuk]

so im planning a rig for deep storage of data at  home here is what i came up with so far? 

 

any recommendations for cutting price? although don't recommend a lower wattage PSU as the 400w selected is cheaper than all the lower wattage ones.

also i will be running the drives in RAID 10 if thats any help 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/t6gTtJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/t6gTtJ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Celeron G3900 2.8GHz Dual-Core Processor  (£39.78 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£23.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£68.80 @ Alza) 
Memory: PNY Anarchy 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£39.55 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£76.56 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£76.56 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£76.56 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£76.56 @ Aria PC) 
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£47.40 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  (£34.79 @ Aria PC) 
Total: £560.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-01 15:29 GMT+0000

[COUPER MILLAR]

Have you considered looking into used servers on eBay? You should be able to pick up a drive less system for a fair price. This also gives you components that are rated for 24hr use as opposed to desktop class hardware.  If not what you have doesn't look too bad. 

[spellmanuk]

1 minute ago, COUPER MILLAR said:

Have you considered looking into used servers on eBay? You should be able to pick up a drive less system for a fair price. This also gives you components that are rated for 24hr use as opposed to desktop class hardware.  If not what you have doesn't look too bad. 

 

i want something that doesnt have a lot of power draw and a lot of noise since its in my house if it was for work id of got a server all day, but i dont fancy paying the power bill for a server and the noise in my house is already manic eough

[COUPER MILLAR]

Fair enough.  Another thing to consider would be a used raid card.  It should give you better stability over the onboard raid controller. 

[spellmanuk]

1 minute ago, COUPER MILLAR said:

Fair enough.  Another thing to consider would be a used raid card.  It should give you better stability over the onboard raid controller. 

 

intel build in raid support is pretty solid these days ive used it in a few builds over the last few years with no issues

[Spork829]

2 minutes ago, peej said:

intel build in raid support is pretty solid these days ive used it in a few builds over the last few years with no issues

Except if the motherboard dies you lose the whole array, onboard RAID is not appealing for that reason.

[paddy-stone]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RKT4JV

 

Made a few changes, prefer the node 304 myself, but cases are subjective to people's preferences. Made it current gen with 2core/4 thread pentium G series CPU and DDR4, changed the mobo obviously too, ASrock make nice boards IMO... see what you think.

[Guest]

Have you ever thought about  a Synology or QNAP System?

 

I have my files on a Synology NAS at home and the powerconsumption and silent operation does its awesome job. Also you will get many easy to install apps and plugins with easy access on any device.

 

How will you acess this machine? And what for? Backups? Media Streams? Working stash directly linked to your Computers?

With these other limits given we can make better suggestions.

[knightslugger]

5 minutes ago, Spork829 said:

Except if the motherboard dies you lose the whole array, onboard RAID is not appealing for that reason.

What are the aftermarket suggestions?

[Serpius]

You will need MORE RAM, a better power supply unit. (the PSU you picked isn't all that good for what you need)

 

You will get a better and lower power hungry processor with this computer build.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7800 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£85.06 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£23.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Asus A88XM-A/USB 3.1 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  (£62.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  (£75.55 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£76.56 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£76.56 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£76.56 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£76.56 @ Aria PC) 
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£47.40 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£47.96 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £649.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-01 15:54 GMT+0000

 

[Spork829]

5 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

What are the aftermarket suggestions?

A standalone RAID card.

[knightslugger]

1 minute ago, Spork829 said:

A standalone RAID card.

 

...specifically...

[Spork829]

1 minute ago, knightslugger said:

 

...specifically...

I'm not the one to ask, never used one  

[ARikozuM]

I would pick up a server board with an SoC like an Asrock C2550D4I. Lower power consumption than anything else you can build while being solid with ECC support (should you ever need it) and lots of SATA ports.

[spellmanuk]

9 minutes ago, cmprinho said:

Have you ever thought about  a Synology or QNAP System?

 

I have my files on a Synology NAS at home and the powerconsumption and silent operation does its awesome job. Also you will get many easy to install apps and plugins with easy access on any device.

 

How will you acess this machine? And what for? Backups? Media Streams? Working stash directly linked to your Computers?

With these other limits given we can make better suggestions.

 

im going to run windows server 2012 or 2016 on there and it will be a compressed back up of all data from all machines in the house but not directly its a back for my backup nas if that makes sense 

 

15 minutes ago, Spork829 said:

Except if the motherboard dies you lose the whole array, onboard RAID is not appealing for that reason.

im willing to take that risk, all the data going on here will be in atleast 4 other places and this machine is a last resort for all of them 

3 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

I would pick up a server board with an SoC like an Asrock C2550D4I. Lower power consumption than anything else you can build while being solid with ECC support (should you ever need it) and lots of SATA ports.

 

price would be my only concern for that im trying to keep the rig around £500 

 

13 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RKT4JV

 

Made a few changes, prefer the node 304 myself, but cases are subjective to people's preferences. Made it current gen with 2core/4 thread pentium G series CPU and DDR4, changed the mobo obviously too, ASrock make nice boards IMO... see what you think.

 

cheers for the suggestions but somthing i forgot to metion is that im trying to keep it about the £500 mark 

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, peej said:

price would be my only concern for that im trying to keep the rig around £500 

The board here in the States goes for about $250. Get a nice case that hold lots of drives and have fun. There are plenty of boards in a variety of prices. 

[paddy-stone]

5 minutes ago, peej said:

im going to run windows server 2012 or 2016 on there and it will be a compressed back up of all data from all machines in the house but not directly its a back for my backup nas if that makes sense 

 

im willing to take that risk, all the data going on here will be in atleast 4 other places and this machine is a last resort for all of them 

price would be my only concern for that im trying to keep the rig around £500 

 

cheers for the suggestions but somthing i forgot to metion is that im trying to keep it about the £500 mark 

Ahh I see.

 

You could try a different case, less hard drives and add more later maybe?

 

I'd definitely stick with the mobo/cpu/ram combo as that is a killer setup for NAS/server IMO having 2/4 cores/threads for just £58 approx, decent mobo... and ram is practically cheapest for ddr4 at £22 per stick of 4GB.

 

[spellmanuk]

6 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

The board here in the States goes for about $250. Get a nice case that hold lots of drives and have fun. There are plenty of boards in a variety of prices. 

 

$250 is £197 or half my budget thanks for the suggestion but i dont think it would give me much benifit since the rig i devised ony draws 190W max 

[spellmanuk]

1 minute ago, paddy-stone said:

Ahh I see.

 

You could try a different case, less hard drives and add more later maybe?

 

I'd definitely stick with the mobo/cpu/ram combo as that is a killer setup for NAS/server IMO having 2/4 cores/threads for just £58 approx, decent mobo... and ram is practically cheapest for ddr4 at £22 per stick of 4GB.

 

 

i did think about the less drives but i want to use raid 10 not raid 1 and you need 4 drives for raid 10 

[paddy-stone]

1 minute ago, peej said:

i did think about the less drives but i want to use raid 10 not raid 1 and you need 4 drives for raid 10 

Damn, that's a shame. For just £54 extra it's a much better build IMO. You could swap the case back to the one you had before for a little bit less expense?

[spellmanuk]

2 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

Damn, that's a shame. For just £54 extra it's a much better build IMO. You could swap the case back to the one you had before for a little bit less expense?

 

ill definaly consider it depending on whatfunds i have when i buy it. not buying this for another few moths yet

 

[paddy-stone]

Oh, something else I noticed Peej, your case only has 3* 3.5" bays... the fractal node 304 has 6, which could be handy.

[Spork829]

4 hours ago, peej said:

im willing to take that risk, all the data going on here will be in atleast 4 other places and this machine is a last resort for all of them

Yeah in that case it's probably ok