Network for my house

[boorjiusss]

Hello everyone,

 

I need help installing a network for my home in a rack. I want to have two networks, one private for us and one for guests. What do I need for this? How do I set it up and start it?

 

Thanks for the help in advance.

[Mr.Humble]

Hi,

 

you need a router that supports guest networks, which I think most modern AC Wifi routers would do. Then all you need to do is set it up in the GUI

[boorjiusss]

1 minute ago, vojta.pokorny said:

Hi,

 

you need a router that supports guest networks, which I think most modern AC Wifi routers would do. Then all you need to do is set it up in the GUI

I wanna have to separate routers and control the use of the apps the use. I'm installing everything into a rack.

[Electronics Wizardy]

16 minutes ago, boorjiusss said:

I wanna have to separate routers and control the use of the apps the use. I'm installing everything into a rack.

Here is what id get.

 

for the router

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-ffab-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB00CPRVF5K

 

you can also get something like a r210 and use pfsense of untange for a router.

 

for the ap's

 

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-802-11ac-Dual-Radio-UAP-AC-PRO-US/dp/B015PRO512/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1484673699&sr=1-1&keywords=ap+ac+pro

 

then get a switch like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerConnect-5324-24-Port-Gigabit-Network-Switch-/252519166438?hash=item3acb50b1e6:g:iW0AAOSwi0RXxgjd

 

or something like this if you want poe(so you don't need power cables for the ap's), but its only 10/100

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Avaya-Nortel-5520-24T-PWR-AL1001A06-E5-24-Port-PoE-Stackable-Gigabit-Switch-/262792982008?hash=item3d2faeadf8:g:VnsAAOSwi0RXzzoN

 

 

[boorjiusss]

11 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Here is what id get.

 

for the router

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-ffab-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB00CPRVF5K

 

you can also get something like a r210 and use pfsense of untange for a router.

 

for the ap's

 

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-802-11ac-Dual-Radio-UAP-AC-PRO-US/dp/B015PRO512/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1484673699&sr=1-1&keywords=ap+ac+pro

 

then get a switch like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerConnect-5324-24-Port-Gigabit-Network-Switch-/252519166438?hash=item3acb50b1e6:g:iW0AAOSwi0RXxgjd

 

or something like this if you want poe(so you don't need power cables for the ap's), but its only 10/100

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Avaya-Nortel-5520-24T-PWR-AL1001A06-E5-24-Port-PoE-Stackable-Gigabit-Switch-/262792982008?hash=item3d2faeadf8:g:VnsAAOSwi0RXzzoN

 

 

I have thought of this switch the one I have at this moment:

ZyXEL GS1100-8HP

I'm gonna use Google Wifi for private use most surely but, I don't know what ap to use for the Guests. But I need to block some apps on that ap so they can't access all apps they want. I want to restrict the guest network. I need to know how to block apps too.

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, boorjiusss said:

I have thought of this switch the one I have at this moment:

ZyXEL GS1100-8HP

I'm gonna use Google Wifi for private use most surely but, I don't know what ap to use for the Guests. But I need to block some apps on that ap so they can't access all apps they want. I want to restrict the guest network. I need to know how to block apps too.

I wouldn't get that switch. Its a dumb switch. The managed ones are much better and let you do lots more network wise.

 

Don't get the google wifi, get the unify stuff. its much better, and each ap can have 4 different wifi networks at once. The google one can also have multiple network on the same device, no reason to get anouther one.

 

All the blocking is one on the router level. Get a good router(not the google ones)

[boorjiusss]

4 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

I wouldn't get that switch. Its a dumb switch. The managed ones are much better and let you do lots more network wise.

 

Don't get the google wifi, get the unify stuff. its much better, and each ap can have 4 different wifi networks at once. The google one can also have multiple network on the same device, no reason to get anouther one.

 

All the blocking is one on the router level. Get a good router(not the google ones)

Okay. Can you recommend me a managed switch form zyxel, not too expensive. How can I block apps?

[Electronics Wizardy]

4 minutes ago, boorjiusss said:

Okay. Can you recommend me a managed switch form zyxel, not too expensive. How can I block apps?

reason why you need this brand? I had some suggestions above.

 

For blocking apps you want a firewall. If you want a cheap one thats good enough, id buy something like a used dell r210 and put pfsense of untangle. To block apps, you normally need to block there website, but google how to block each app, or see what connections are made.

[boorjiusss]

2 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

reason why you need this brand? I had some suggestions above.

 

For blocking apps you want a firewall. If you want a cheap one thats good enough, id buy something like a used dell r210 and put pfsense of untangle. To block apps, you normally need to block there website, but google how to block each app, or see what connections are made.

I cannot buy in ebay because I'm form Spain. Do I really need a firewall to block apps?

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, boorjiusss said:

Do I really need a firewall to block apps?

yep.

 

where is  website you can buy from?

 

 

[boorjiusss]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

yep.

 

where is  website you can buy from?

 

 

amazon. What firewall do you recommend me? And how I connect my router, the firewall, the AP's, the switch...? Any scheme please. All ideas are welcome.

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, boorjiusss said:

Okay. Can you recommend me a managed switch form zyxel, not too expensive. How can I block apps?

what website can you buy from.

 

Here is what id get.

Old system like a dell r210 as a router(install pfsense or untangle)

 

unify ap ac pro'sfor wifi

 

poe switch to power them and manage traffic

[boorjiusss]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

what website can you buy from.

 

Here is what id get.

Old system like a dell r210 as a router(install pfsense or untangle)

 

unify ap ac pro'sfor wifi

 

poe switch to power them and manage traffic

I don't undertsand what's pfsense or untangle. I can buy from amazon. What POE Switch?

[boorjiusss]

4 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

what website can you buy from.

 

Here is what id get.

Old system like a dell r210 as a router(install pfsense or untangle)

 

unify ap ac pro'sfor wifi

 

poe switch to power them and manage traffic

Why do I need Dell R210 that's a server. What do I need a server for?

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 minutes ago, boorjiusss said:

I don't undertsand what's pfsense or untangle. I can buy from amazon. What POE Switch?

pfsense and untangle are os's that will make any system work as a router.

 

Any poe switch will work, Id personally get a managed one.

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, boorjiusss said:

Why do I need Dell R210 that's a server. What do I need a server for?

 

the server will be your router and firewall

[boorjiusss]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

the server will be your router and firewall

I don't understand how to get everything working. How to connect everything. I need a scheme...

[Electronics Wizardy]

10 minutes ago, boorjiusss said:

I don't understand how to get everything working. How to connect everything. I need a scheme...

the computer or server works as a router.

 

The router plugs into the moden and the switch.

 

THe AP's plug into the switch along with other wired devices.

[boorjiusss]

4 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

the computer or server works as a router.

 

The router plugs into the moden and the switch.

 

THe AP's plug into the switch along with other wired devices.

Okay and how do I have to configure the server?

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, boorjiusss said:

Okay and how do I have to configure the server?

Basically you install a os, just like Windows. Then you can control it in a Web browser like any other router. 

[boorjiusss]

5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Basically you install a os, just like Windows. Then you can control it in a Web browser like any other router. 

And how do I configure the firewall and block the apps?

[Electronics Wizardy]

6 minutes ago, boorjiusss said:

And how do I configure the firewall and block the apps?

It's all in a Web interface. There is a Web filter plug on you enable and then you block the websites that the movies app uses 

[boorjiusss]

13 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

It's all in a Web interface. There is a Web filter plug on you enable and then you block the websites that the movies app uses 

and if it's an app like snapchat or instagram or skype?

[Electronics Wizardy]

17 minutes ago, boorjiusss said:

and if it's an app like snapchat or instagram or skype?

you have to see what server's or ip the app is contacting or google it, then add that to the list.

[paddy-stone]

Sorry but I'd give up here @Electronics Wizardy, there seems little point in recommending quite expensive hardware that the user doesn't know how to use, or even what it is. I think TBH that he'd be better off with a consumer router that has AC wifi and guest access controls. They also come with QOS etc that might be able to be configured to block apps as he wants... why am I telling you this? you already know this way better than I, lol... just seems to be a slog here for you trying to explain is all.

No offense meant to the OP, people have to start soemwhere, and I am no expert either... but I don't see the point in spending so much money on the use case you explained when the same can be had from a consumer router or router+AP at the most IMO.