vega 10% faster than 1080 with alpha drivers

[The Sloth]

 

[Guest]

Well RIP. However 1080 Ti will be released sometime and will perform better than VEGA.

[firestronk]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Well RIP. However 1080 Ti will be released sometime and will perform better than VEGA.

What makes you so sure of it

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Well RIP. However 1080 Ti will be released sometime and will perform better than VEGA.

well we can hope no words on 1080 ti yet also its alpha so 490 can probably hold its ground with optimized drivers. 

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Well RIP. However 1080 Ti will be released sometime and will perform better than VEGA.

Nvidia missed their release window at CES. And there has been no confirmation from them. There's still a chance the 1080 Ti is not real

[Energycore]

2 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Well RIP. However 1080 Ti will be released sometime and will perform better than VEGA.

On top of that we don't know whether this is the biggest Vega

[pwn_intended]

Well heres to hoping that this actually rings true, and Vega IS more powerful than a 1080. I'm just waiting on NVidia to drop an HMB2 gpu on us.

so excite!

[PCGuy_5960]

RIP Vega. 1080 Ti confirmed!

Nvidia won't allow them to win

[Matias_Chambers]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

RIP Vega. 1080 Ti confirmed!

Nvidia won't allow them to win

But, imagine if VEGA is like the same price as the 1080. 

[JCBiggs]

it will be cheaper.

 

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

RIP Vega. 1080 Ti confirmed!

Nvidia won't allow them to win

 

imagine vega with optimized drivers for cheaper. 

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Matias_Chambers said:

But, imagine if VEGA is like the same price as the 1080. 

I was talking about performance......

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

imagine vega with optimized drivers for cheaper. 

Drivers can improve performance, but they don't work miracles.... I think that it will end up being around 10-15% faster than the 1080....

BTW, keep in mind that they were running using the Vulkan API, which gives a performance boost of up to 20% on AMD GPUs

[MMKing]

In environments controlled by AMD.

 

Also, the Vega 11 die size is in the 500mm^2 area , while the 1080 is at 314mm^2. Combined with the faster Vram, Vega 11 being faster than the 1080 is not particularly news worthy, it is in fact expected.

 

What is news worthy, is the price point of the Vega 11 graphics cards. Which i doubt is significantly cheaper than the 1080 price point. But even if it is cheaper, it will be by a token amount for the sake of being cheaper than the competition.

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, MMKing said:

In environments controlled by AMD.

 

Also, the Vega 11 die size is in the 500mm^2 area , while the 1080 is at 314mm^2. Combined with the faster Vram, Vega 11 being faster than the 1080 is not particularly news worthy, it is in fact expected.

 

What is news worthy, is the price point of the Vega 11 graphics cards. Which i doubt is significantly cheaper than the 1080 price point. But even if it is cheaper, it will be by a token amount for the sake of being cheaper than the competition.

 

if they can deliver 20% performance improvement from 1080 that's good enough, not expecting miracles. 

[PCGuy_5960]

11 minutes ago, MMKing said:

Also, the Vega 11 die size is in the 500mm^2 area , while the 1080 is at 314mm^2. Combined with the faster Vram, Vega 11 being faster than the 1080 is not particularly news worthy, it is in fact expected.

AMD usually needs more cores to achieve the same level of performance as Nvidia... This is why the die is bigger on Vega....

[PCGuy_5960]

14 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

if they can deliver 20% performance improvement from 1080 that's good enough, not expecting miracles. 

15% in DX11 and ~25% in DX12/Vulkan seems much more feasible.....

[ThinkWithPortals]

We can only hope that this is true real-world. But if it is (and I hope it is), NVIDIA's in trouble.

[App4that]

37 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

imagine vega with optimized drivers for cheaper. 

Imagine the independent test on games not optimized for Radeon.

 

Why people waste the energy to take this crap seriously is byond me. Nvidia does the same, if anything this shows all Nvidia has to do is chop the price of the 1080 to beat Radeon. They won't even need the 1080ti. 

[JCBiggs]

games arent optimized for a chip.. they are optimized for direct x.. then its up to the chip makers to make chips that our perform the other in a giver dx format.  (this is the reason you can run an nvidia gpu and amd gpu side by side in directx 12.   

 

 

[MMKing]

15 hours ago, JCBiggs said:

games arent optimized for a chip.. they are optimized for direct x.. then its up to the chip makers to make chips that our perform the other in a giver dx format.  (this is the reason you can run an nvidia gpu and amd gpu side by side in directx 12.   

 

 

True, but that doesn't mean you cannot design your game to heavily utilize features that one brand is noteworthy better at. Like how Crysis 2 went extreme on tessellation, to the point where levels without water forced the GPU to render water not visible to the player. Flat surfaces were also heavily tessellated, despite the fact that tessellating flat surfaces is inherently useless.

[xAcid9]

That is the biggest Vega iinm. 

[Mick Naughty]

10% thx but no thx. 

[Noirgheos]

I mean, this is DOOM, a game that we know runs better on AMD. Still, nice to see.

[MrAlbertrocks]

This is a perfect scenario set by AMD. They even used a game that runs better on AMD, so thinking it will be even faster than what was shown is kind of illogical. The same happened then Nvidia showed the 1080 FE hitting 2.1 Mhz at very low temps. This scenarios are set up to make the product look good, if anything changes, the more logical conclusion is that it will perform worse that what was shown. 

[Shadow_Storm56]

On 1/10/2017 at 4:27 PM, nerdslayer1 said:

 

you gotta remember though......nvidia is really good for overclockability. Espeically on water whare in my experience the AMD cards are very limited. So it may be the same or a little worse than a 1080 at the end of the day.