PS4 pro killer plan

[♠FlamieMeister♠]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Flamiemeister/saved/2mqbvK Costs the same, is more powerful, and maybe it'll go into my Dreamcast PC plan if my original ryzen plan doesn't work.

[The_Denks]

Personally id go with 16GB of RAM, but seems ok

[IHirs]

The new pentium cpu that was just released is really good for budget builds

[Mira Yurizaki]

The PS4 Pro uses what amounts to a downclocked RX 480 (911MHz vs 1120MHz). Considering that the RX 470 beats the GTX 1050 Ti, you're not actually going to beat it in graphical performance.

 

I'm also going to point out the argument that if you want to price match the PS4 in any way shape or form, you're going to have to spec it out exactly. Which means you're missing:

• A Blu-Ray drive
• A controller
• A Wi-Fi module

Otherwise you're cherry picking out parts to inflate your budget.

[DarkBlade2117]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pcPbyf

I'd go with this for a few reasons. Now I don't know for sure how the Pentium will perform but in reality it shouldn't be much less then an i3-6100 at stock clocks. This would give the console play easily upgradability to an i5 or even i7. Plus, I think that $13 can be overlooked being as I would include a years of PSPlus into the cost. If you do this you can also include the price of the keyboard and mouse plus windows. Along with that, most people have a TV already, if not you were going to have to get something to use with the PS4.

[DarkBlade2117]

1 minute ago, M.Yurizaki said:

The PS4 Pro uses what amounts to a downclocked RX 480 (911MHz vs 1120MHz). Considering that the RX 470 beats the GTX 1050 Ti, you're not actually going to beat it in graphical performance.

 

I'm also going to point out the argument that if you want to price match the PS4 in any way shape or form, you're going to have to spec it out exactly. Which means you're missing:

• A Blu-Ray drive
• A controller
• A Wi-Fi module

Otherwise you're cherry picking out parts to inflate your budget.

Eh, tbh if you actually tinker with settings ect, add the cost of PSPlus and then add the cost of price of games you'd buy for the PS4 Pro and add the money you save from going with a PC into the PC, would be nothing for it to have an RX 480.

[Mira Yurizaki]

5 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

Eh, tbh if you actually tinker with settings ect, add the cost of PSPlus and then add the cost of price of games you'd buy for the PS4 Pro and add the money you save from going with a PC into the PC, would be nothing for it to have an RX 480.

PS+ is only necessary if you want to play on line for games that aren't F2P or if it requires a subscription fee (e.g., FFXIV does not require PS+). If you don't care about going online, then this is not an issue. Also people seem to gloss over that PS+ includes free games every month. Also people seem to think console games don't have sales or their prices don't go down over time.

 

Anyway, this is the closest I could get to matching the PS4 Pro as much as possible, minus the BD drive:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x39xTH
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x39xTH/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 880K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($92.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A68M-DG3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($224.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill RANGER-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($33.30 @ Jet)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $520.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-06 12:13 EST-0500

 

You could add another $20 for another 4GB of RAM, but also keep in mind the PS4 doesn't use 8GB of system memory. It's 8GB spread between the system and GPU.

[Brooksie359]

1 minute ago, M.Yurizaki said:

PS+ is only necessary if you want to play on line for games that aren't F2P or if it requires a subscription fee (FFXIV does not require PS+). If you don't care about going online, then this is not an issue. Also people seem to gloss over that PS+ includes free games every month. Also people seem to think console games don't have sales or their prices don't go down over time.

 

Anyway, this is the closest I could get to matching the PS4 Pro as much as possible, minus the BD drive:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x39xTH
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x39xTH/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 880K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($92.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A68M-DG3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($224.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill RANGER-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($33.30 @ Jet)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $520.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-06 12:13 EST-0500

 

You could add another $20 for another 4GB of RAM, but also keep in mind the PS4 doesn't use 8GB of system memory. It's 8GB spread between the system and GPU.

yeah but the ps4 doesn't have to run windows either. i would find it hard to run windows and games on a pc like that. i guess you could run something else besides windows. 

[♠FlamieMeister♠]

Thank you guys for pointing out having to pay for psplus, my budget went to 460 from 399, and i was able to throw a nitro RX 470 in there.

[Mira Yurizaki]

Just now, Brooksie359 said:

yeah but the ps4 doesn't have to run windows either. i would find it hard to run windows and games on a pc like that. i guess you could run something else besides windows. 

Sure, if you demand AAA titles at 1440p and 60FPS on ultra max settings.

[♠FlamieMeister♠]

1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

yeah but the ps4 doesn't have to run windows either. i would find it hard to run windows and games on a pc like that. i guess you could run something else besides windows. 

Theres  apparently ways you can use the playstation 4 OS on pc's

[Matias_Chambers]

16 minutes ago, UberGamerKing said:

Personally id go with 16GB of RAM, but seems ok

I wouldn't at that budget. 

[Brooksie359]

1 minute ago, M.Yurizaki said:

Sure, if you demand AAA titles at 1440p and 60FPS on ultra max settings.

4gb is nothing. you try and run windows and gta 5 on 4gb of ram good luck. I play gta 5 at 1080p and i tend to use anywhere from 2 to 3 gb of ram so that leaves very little room for windows to run. 

[The Sloth]

13 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

The PS4 Pro uses what amounts to a downclocked RX 480 (911MHz vs 1120MHz). Considering that the RX 470 beats the GTX 1050 Ti, you're not actually going to beat it in graphical performance.

 

I'm also going to point out the argument that if you want to price match the PS4 in any way shape or form, you're going to have to spec it out exactly. Which means you're missing:

• A Blu-Ray drive
• A controller
• A Wi-Fi module

Otherwise you're cherry picking out parts to inflate your budget.

 

ps4 pro uses a 470 than a 480 

[The Sloth]

go used if you want to make a ps4 pro killer 

[Mira Yurizaki]

5 minutes ago, ♠FlamieMeister♠ said:

Thank you guys for pointing out having to pay for psplus, my budget went to 460 from 399, and i was able to throw a nitro RX 470 in there.

You may as well inflate the budget another $60 for every year you plan on keeping the PC.

 

5 minutes ago, ♠FlamieMeister♠ said:

Theres  apparently ways you can use the playstation 4 OS on pc's

If it's the actual OS, that won't work very well since the OS wouldn't be finding the hardware it wants. Otherwise, it's a version of FreeBSD, which isn't really all that popular in the grand scheme of things.

 

2 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

4gb is nothing. you try and run windows and gta 5 on 4gb of ram good luck. I play gta 5 at 1080p and i tend to use anywhere from 2 to 3 gb of ram so that leaves very little room for windows to run. 

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/does-more-ram-improve-gaming-performance/5/

Apparently GTA V on 4GB of RAM runs better than with 8GB.

 

I also got Windows 8 to idle at 350MB of RAM, without touching much in the way of configurations or stripping out unnecessary components.

 

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

ps4 pro uses a 470 than a 480 

The shader count on the PS4's GPU is the exact same as the 480's, therefore it's a 480.

[The Sloth]

2 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

You may as well inflate the budget another $60 for every year you plan on keeping the PC.

 

If it's the actual OS, that won't work very well since the OS wouldn't be finding the hardware it wants. Otherwise, it's a version of FreeBSD, which isn't really all that popular in the grand scheme of things.

 

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/does-more-ram-improve-gaming-performance/5/

Apparently GTA V on 4GB of RAM runs better than with 8GB.

 

I also got Windows 8 to idle at 350MB of RAM, without touching much in the way of configurations or stripping out unnecessary components.

 

The shader count on the PS4's GPU is the exact same as the 480's, therefore it's a 480.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10663/analyzing-sonys-playstation-4-pro-announcement we don't know exact but its safe to assume its a custom gpu. the cpu is the bottleneck in ps4 pro. 

[♠FlamieMeister♠]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Flamiemeister/saved/#view=pD2rHx new idea

[Mira Yurizaki]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10663/analyzing-sonys-playstation-4-pro-announcement we don't know exact but its safe to assume its a custom gpu. the cpu is the bottleneck in ps4 pro. 

The PS4 Pro natively renders everything a higher resolution (it's not 1080p upscaled to 4K, it's up to 4K, but most of the time it will float between 1440p and 4K), so the CPU is not a bottleneck here.

[The Sloth]

Just now, M.Yurizaki said:

The PS4 Pro natively renders everything a higher resolution (it's not 1080p upscaled to 4K, it's up to 4K, but most of the time it will float between 1440p and 4K), so the CPU is not a bottleneck here.

 

nope the ps4 doesn't render everything at 4k most things are 1800p vary few games are 4k and thay have vary bad performance. you dont have to take my words there is a channel called digital foundry they test systems 

 

[♠FlamieMeister♠]

Can you guys just check out my new build plan? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Flamiemeister/saved/#view=pD2rHx

 

[The Sloth]

2 minutes ago, ♠FlamieMeister♠ said:

Can you guys just check out my new build plan? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Flamiemeister/saved/#view=pD2rHx

 

 

throw in a 480 and its good 

[Mira Yurizaki]

5 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

nope the ps4 doesn't render everything at 4k most things are 1800p vary few games are 4k and thay have vary bad performance. you dont have to take my words there is a channel called digital foundry they test systems 

 

I didn't say it renders everything in 4K. I said it renders up to 4K

4 minutes ago, ♠FlamieMeister♠ said:

Can you guys just check out my new build plan? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Flamiemeister/saved/#view=pD2rHx

No!

 

I mean, it looks good, but in my eyes as a general gamer, it's not really a "PS4 Pro killer" in terms of cost/performance.

[♠FlamieMeister♠]

Fuck it im going used parts

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 minute ago, ♠FlamieMeister♠ said:

Fuck it im going used parts

Sorry, I'm kind of passionate about this subject because the argument gets so cherry picked and strawmanned to death.

 

Then again sometimes I feel like rustling jimmies.