GTX 1080ti to bring 1080 price down or stay premium product.

[Davehaslanded]

With GPU pricing going crazy recently and the weaker GBP since the Brexit vote, updating my desktop has become a real money issue. My living room PC has been gaming on a 4KTV with a GTX 980 and controller since the 980's launch, but generally, most games end up being played at 1440p. I purchased a Palit triple slot GTX 1080 for my ATX desktop PC shortly after launching. This was my priority due to this being my VR and 4K editing rig. The plan was always to upgrade my living room ITX a few months later. But that plan backfired. Prices never dropped and in many cases went up by as much as £100.

So here is the question; with the GTX 1080ti widely rumored to be announced very soon, with many tech sites pointing to CES 2017, what will happen to Nvidia's pricing? Will they go crazy and launch a £800+ GPU or release the GTX 1080ti at a more reasonable (But still crazy) price of £650-£700 and reduce the cost of the GTX 1080? My current plan is to wait until January for the 1080ti announcement and see where the cards fall.

For me, the biggest issue in the market is the lack of high end competition from AMD. But hopes are, with positive leaks appearing about both ZEN performance and the presumed release of the R9 490 series in 2017, that pricing can once again balance out.

So here is just a fun poll for you guys to have your say.

[Guest]

What is this quesion? Of course we want lower priced 1080 and fair priced 1080 Ti even though 90% of us can not afford a new stick of RAM for $10 

[Oshino Shinobu]

They will release it at a higher price and the price of new GTX 1080s will stay roughly the same, as they normally do. Used 1080 prices will likely drop a little at first due to a surge of people selling them to buy a 1080Ti. 

[Davehaslanded]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

What is this quesion? Of course we want lower priced 1080 and fair priced 1080 Ti even though 90% of us can not afford a new stick of RAM for $10 

Not a question of whether you want a lower price. What do you think the price points will be?

[Guest]

Just now, Davehaslanded said:

Not a question of whether you want a lower price. What do you think the price points will be?

Crap... well I just woke up. We want no 2 but manufacturer's will go no 1 in most case

[daniellearmouth]

If the 980/980 Ti is anything of an indicator, the 1080 will get a small price cut (about $50/$100, I imagine), and the 1080 Ti will probably cost $750, as a rough guess. Assuming, of course, a 1080 Ti is an actual thing.

[SCHISCHKA]

4 minutes ago, Davehaslanded said:

the biggest issue in the market is the lack of high end competition from AMD

yep.

I also have a UHD that I run lower res on. I am not motivated right now to purchase more than a 1060 because all the cards suck. Only the 10 series laptop GPU have got me excited because they did not put them in a 'm' shit hole

[FakeNSA]

6 minutes ago, Davehaslanded said:

and the presumed release of the R9 490 series in 2017

Wouldn't that be RX 490? as in, r10, in roman numerals?

[porina]

I'd expect the 1080Ti to be priced above 1080, but there might be small shift in 1080 pricing. Nothing of note, and certainly nothing to offset Brexit woes.

 

I'm not up to speed on the AMD side of rumours, but the 490 sounds like it'll be a dual Polaris card and not Vega, so serious competition wont be until next year if ever.

[Davehaslanded]

3 minutes ago, Aelar_Nailo said:

Wouldn't that be RX 490? as in, r10, in roman numerals?

Not how AMD naming works. R7 = entry level R9 = gaming. Its usually first number that changes eg R9 290->R9 390 etc

[SCHISCHKA]

1 minute ago, porina said:

I'd expect the 1080Ti to be priced above 1080

T = testicles

i = I know that T means balls

of course its priced as per its performance. 1080Ti is a 1080 with a little bit more balls.

[porina]

1 minute ago, SCHISCHKA said:

of course its priced as per its performance. 1080Ti is a 1080 with a little bit more balls.

I need more balls. I'd prefer more Intel balls, but more nvidia balls would be nice too. AMD, where are you?

[cummerou1]

7 minutes ago, porina said:

I'd expect the 1080Ti to be priced above 1080, but there might be small shift in 1080 pricing. Nothing of note, and certainly nothing to offset Brexit woes.

 

I'm not up to speed on the AMD side of rumours, but the 490 sounds like it'll be a dual Polaris card and not Vega, so serious competition wont be until next year if ever.

 

 

Dual cards?

 

 

You would think they would have learned something from past dual cards.

[SCHISCHKA]

they did similar with GTX+ back in the day in releasing a slightly better card half way between the new card. I do not know the diff between Ti and GTX+. I do know that GTX+ meant last years card with a slight overclock

[Davehaslanded]

Just had a thought about the increase in pricing. I believe Moore's law kind of predicted it. Many people know the first bit about doubling power and halving size. But I believe he also made a comment about how the smaller things got, the ever more expensive it would become. I doubt he had Nvidia being greedy due to lack of competition in mind, but he was right. lol

[CostcoSamples]

1080 and 1070 might drop a little if sales are slowing down, but expect 1080 ti to be a premium price!  perhaps $700-800 USD.

[porina]

2 minutes ago, cummerou1 said:

You would think they would have learned something from past dual cards.

Only a rumour, and I hope they're wrong and it will be something new with Vega, but in the end it is guesswork outside of AMD.

2 minutes ago, Davehaslanded said:

Just had a thought about the increase in pricing. I believe Moore's law kind of predicted it. Many people know the first bit about doubling power and halving size. But I believe he also made a comment about how the smaller things got, the ever more expensive it would become. I doubt he had Nvidia being greedy due to lack of competition in mind, but he was right. lol

Even cost depends on how you measure it... per-transistor, it is probably still dropping, but we're also getting a lot more transistors offsetting that. As a kinda fun exercise someone could look up the transistor counts of common _PUs and work out a cost per transistor based on street price. See how they compare.

[cummerou1]

3 minutes ago, Davehaslanded said:

Just had a thought about the increase in pricing. I believe Moore's law kind of predicted it. Many people know the first bit about doubling power and halving size. But I believe he also made a comment about how the smaller things got, the ever more expensive it would become. I doubt he had Nvidia being greedy due to lack of competition in mind, but he was right. lol

 

Nvidia is not being greedy, their products are worth exactly what people will pay for them. Might as well make bank if they can. But i agree that their profit margins are stupid. A good example of what happens if there is no competition. I believe it's cisco that has pretty much a monopoly in networking. When they sell equipment to schools the schools get a 90% discount. Think about that, Cisco can chop 90% of off their equipment's price and STILL make money.

[FakeNSA]

34 minutes ago, Davehaslanded said:

Not how AMD naming works. R7 = entry level R9 = gaming. Its usually first number that changes eg R9 290->R9 390 etc

So.... What is rx? If those are the only options?

[Davehaslanded]

2 minutes ago, Aelar_Nailo said:

So.... What is rx? If those are the only options?

It appears to be some of their hand picked first party cards. Bit like first party FTW or G1 cards

 

http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/radeon-rx-series